[Therion] Therion Digest, Vol 123, Issue 5

Dave Clucas dave.clucas at icloud.com
Wed Mar 16 01:34:08 CET 2016 

> Note that the team members names are only allowed to contain one space character, so use hypens for double barreled names or your project will generate an error when you try to compile it. 
> 
You can also use the escape character "/" to allow as may spaces as you want e.g. team "Giles /St. John Cuthbert Junior"

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>   1. Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts (Footleg)
>   2.  Re:  Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts
>      (Martin Sluka)
>   3. Re: Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts
>      (Footleg)
>   4. Re: Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts
>      (Martin Sluka)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:45:46 +0000
> From: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
> 	Layouts
> To: List for Therion users <therion at speleo.sk>
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> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial.
> Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
> lesson on defining layouts.
> 
> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened if
> I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
> 
> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
> *http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
> <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>*
> 
> Footleg
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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
> Subject: [Therion]  Re:  Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
> 	Layouts
> To: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
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> Hi Footleg,
> 
> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is much faster way.
> 
> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
> 
> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition of PDF. So it is bug. (According to?Martin Budaj).
> 
> m.s.
> 
> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial. Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new lesson on defining layouts.
> 
> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
> 
> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
> http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
> 
> Footleg
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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 20:18:29 +0000
> From: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
> 	Layouts
> To: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
> Cc: therion at speleo.sk
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> Hi Martin,
> 
> Thanks for these points. Can you clarify what you mean by using right mouse
> click when drawing scraps? I thought I covered the right-mouse menus for
> setting line options. Was there something specific I've missed, or not
> clear enough mention of context menus when drawing?
> 
> I'm not sure where group transparency is applied in the PDFs. I see
> transparency working for overlying passages and for boulders drawn over
> area fills. At least I see it in Sumatra and FoxIt readers, but not in
> Adobe Acrobat Reader. Can you give examples of features where I can check
> whether it is working?
> 
> Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've
> seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out
> training courses.
> 
> Thanks,
> Footleg
> 
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Footleg,
>> 
>> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is
>> much faster way.
>> 
>> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw
>> only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature
>> from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
>> 
>> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and
>> several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition
>> of PDF. So it is bug. (According to Martin Budaj).
>> 
>> m.s.
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial.
>> Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
>> lesson on defining layouts.
>> 
>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened
>> if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>> 
>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>> *http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
>> <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>*
>> 
>> Footleg
>> 
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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:15:47 +0100
> From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
> 	Layouts
> To: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
> Cc: therion at speleo.sk
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>> 15. 3. 2016 v 21:18, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>:
>> 
>> Hi Martin,
>> 
>> Thanks for these points. Can you clarify what you mean by using right mouse click when drawing scraps? I thought I covered the right-mouse menus for setting line options. Was there something specific I've missed, or not clear enough mention of context menus when drawing?
> 
> I prefer last time right click menus. It is really faster. I?ll send you screenshots I made.
> 
>> I'm not sure where group transparency is applied in the PDFs. I see transparency working for overlying passages and for boulders drawn over area fills. At least I see it in Sumatra and FoxIt readers, but not in Adobe Acrobat Reader. Can you give examples of features where I can check whether it is working?
> 
> It is exactly as you wrote. Reader is correct, others with transparency for blocks have bug. Including Mac Prerview, Fast Preview and others Mac viewers. It is quite pity, because Fast Preview is really fast.
> 
>> Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out training courses.
>> 
> 
> m.
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Footleg
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com <mailto:martinsluka at mac.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Footleg,
>> 
>> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is much faster way.
>> 
>> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
>> 
>> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition of PDF. So it is bug. (According to Martin Budaj).
>> 
>> m.s.
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com <mailto:drfootleg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial. Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new lesson on defining layouts.
>>> 
>>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>>> 
>>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>>> http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/ <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>
>>> 
>>> Footleg
>> 
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