[Therion] Magazine printing of surveys from Therion

Martin Sluka martinsluka at mac.com
Wed Jul 21 10:04:18 CEST 2010


Andy, try to rasterize PDF in Photoshop to 360 or 240 or 180 dpi  
(depending on scale you need to reduce size). It will reduce all  
problems with too huge vector formats.

Martin

On 21.7.2010, at 9:58, Andrew Atkinson wrote:

> Hi
>
> We are trying to send our Charterhouse survey to Descent for  
> publication. Chris Howes, the editor, would love to have an output  
> he can use directly, but as yet this is not to be.
>
> Over a series of emails here are some of the points that he has  
> made. I hope I have not taken them out of context in editing them  
> down to a single email. (I also accept some of the comments may come  
> from the fact I do not understand some of the features of Therion or  
> some of the terminology) Hope this is useful for future development
>
>
> 1
> My problem was that if I'm using colour on a page, I often use a  
> tinted
> background and/or run bits of survey across a photo corner or  
> something (or even over a graphic) as part of my layout. But if  
> there is transparency in the fill, I can't do that. What's needed is  
> for no transparency to be used in 'normal' fills = all passages, but  
> instead a solid colour. For overlying bits, transparency is fine for  
> the upper section, but not the lower.
>
> Transparency for all 'non cave' bits = the background *should* be
> transparent of course.
>
> 2
> Another oddity - there seemed to be a lot of non-stroked detail/bits  
> way off
> the passages/survey that don't show up but are selectable. Doesn't  
> seem to
> affect anything and I can't even see them, but only spot that  
> *something* is
> there when trying to select the image. Odd - not a problem (as far  
> as I
> know) but as this is a report on what happens here, I thought I'd  
> mention
> it.
>
> 3a (svg with walls and lables only, no passage fill colour)
>
> I can change the line weight
> okay, but as I hit as a problem before when working on files like  
> this, the paths don't seem to stay as a path (text, for example,  
> aren't words but just single letters) and I can't figure out how to  
> do a fill to add colour to the passage content. That is, if there is  
> a colour there, I'm pretty sure I can change it but I can't select  
> enough to actually add a fill in the first
> place.
>
> 3b (svg with only cross section switched off)
> The detailed view won't open correctly in Illustrator - there are  
> warnings
> about too many nested groups (surprising considering the complexity  
> of the
> .svg files for the Three Counties that are in the next issue, which  
> breezed
> through) and that it might not look correct, then it opens with most  
> of the
> content missing (the only bit that appears fully intact is at the  
> extreme
> bottom and only for a few metres). Needed for this I think/suspect:  
> some
> work in flattening/decreasing grouping in the original before  
> creating the
> .svg, but I don't have experience of the creating package (nor any  
> other
> vector software).
>
> 3c (pdf with cross sections off)
> Having imported the pdf to Illustrator, as I mentioned already  
> evident is that the file has been simplified by having taken that  
> route, rather than the svg. At least, that's my assumption as it  
> opened without warning about groups, as opposed to opening without  
> any real content remaining.
>
>
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