[Therion] Printing xvi maps (done with pdf's)
Cooper, Ben
ben.cooper at siemens.com
Tue Nov 13 23:35:41 CET 2007
Fantastic, thanks! Perhaps this is a new feature? I first learnt
Therion three versions ago, so am not always up to date with the latest
iteration of The Book.
- Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On
Behalf Of Ladislav Blazek
Sent: 13 November 2007 11:04
To: therion at speleo.sk
Subject: Re: [Therion] Printing xvi maps (done with pdf's)
Hi,
please read the therion book... You can specify LRUD for both points
(From, To). Just use syntax like this:
Data from to compass clino length left right up down
1 1a 45 10 0.01 [0.0 1.0] [2.0 1.5] [2.2 1.8] [0.5 0.2]
where first number is for "From" point and second one is for "To" point.
L.
Cooper, Ben napsal(a):
> My experience is that the LRUD applies to the "To" station. In order
to
> generate the first "From" station LRUD, I manually create a Dummy
> station, 1cm away from the true starting station, as follows:
>
> E.g.
> Data from to compass clino length left right up down
> # 1 2 45 10 6.00 0.0 2.0 2.0 0.5 # station 1 LRUD
> 1 1a 45 10 0.01 0.0 2.0 2.2 0.5 # station 1 LRUD
> 1a 2 45 10 5.99 2.0 0.0 2.1 0.6 # station 2 LRUD
>
> I also find that reverse legs, or dog-legs are not handled well by
LRUD.
> This is not a criticism of Therion, but a confusion with the
surveyors.
> It is not so simple to say that the LRUD applies to the direction of
the
> survey, because the LRUD applies to a station, which may have legs
taken
> both From and To it. Therefore, our convention is to record LRUD in
the
> direction of the passage. If we turn around, the passage Left and
Right
> remain where they were! I then need to disentangle this in the .th
file
> in order to get the XVI looking correct.
>
> I then create passage-name.th2, insert th XVI, insert station points
> over the centreline, and draw the walls over the LRUD with reference
to
> any sketches we have produced. It's that simple. For stage 2 of our
> surveying project, we plan to print out these "rough" surveys onto
> waterproof paper, and then re-draw the cave onto these sheets while
> actually standing in the cave. For that purpose, a pdf output of the
> XVI is all we need!
> - Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On
> Behalf Of Bruce Mutton
> Sent: 12 November 2007 19:09
> To: therion at speleo.sk
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Printing xvi maps (done with pdf's)
>
> Hi Ben
> My first encounter with Therion was about two weeks ago, and the
things
> that
> work well for me just seem to keep getting better, but there are some
> (rather critical) things that still escape me, like overlaying scraps
> onto
> the centreline. I thought I'd see what you had done in the hope it
> would
> shed some light on my problems...
>
> Anyway, your query. The email system scrambled your *.th listing, but
I
> think I patched it up OK. (Perhaps it's better to attach the file,
then
> we
> can open it directly with just one double click.)
>
> My understanding is that the LRUD data apply to the 'from' station,
not
> the
> 'to' station. But I see your point, your plots, and the plot attached
> seem
> to indicate something different is going on.
> Bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On
> Behalf
> Of Cooper, Ben
> Sent: Monday, 12 November 2007 9:37 p.m.
> To: therion at speleo.sk
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Printing xvi maps (done with pdf's)
>
> Well, I've now upgraded, but am getting strange results. See attached
> PDFs. The raw XVI are OK, but in NewPassage_CL.PDF, each LRUD
> parallelogram seems to be flipped over. Below is the raw
NewPassage.th
> file. Note that the centreline output of the entire cave (UF_CL.pdf)
> handles NewPassage slightly better (but still not perfectly) than
> NewPassage on its own.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
> - Ben
>
>
> encoding utf-8
> survey NewPassage -title "New Passage"
> centreline
> equate 35 at Leg1 51 at Leg2
> endcentreline
> survey Leg1 # From Boulder Choke to Walk The Plank
> centerline
> flags duplicate # duplicate of Boulder Choke legs for reference
in
> th2 file.
> extend right
> data normal from to length compass clino left right up down
> bc32 bc33 2.33 201 -54 1.1 0.3 0.5
> 0.3 #33 (Through Easy Squeeze)
> data normal from to length compass clino
> bc33 bc34 3.07 239 -39
> data normal from to length compass clino left right up down
> bc34 bc35 2.49 231 -57 0.9 0.3 0.5
> 0.6 #35
> bc35 bc36 2.13 194 -37 0.4 0 0.2
> 0.8 #36
> bc36 bc37 2.5 141 +06 0.5 0 0.8
> 0 #37
> bc37 bc38 3.74 139 -09 1.6 0.2 0.7
> 1.5 #38
> bc38 bc39a 2.75 136 -10 0 1.15 1.6
> 1.0 #39
> bc39a 1 0.01 136 -10 6 1.15
> 5 1.0 #1 LRUD Est
> flags not duplicate
>
> extend left
> data normal from to length compass clino
> 1 bc40 11 052 +43
>
> extend right
> mark 1 painted
> data normal\
> from to length compass clino left right up
> down
> 1 2 29.46 153 -25 4.3 2.4 4.8
> 1.4 #2
> station 2 "Emergency Dump"
> 2 3 16.09 144 -04 3.4 3.0 2.9
> 1.4 #3
> 3 4 11.44 142 -11 4.2 2.0 0.9
> 1.6 #4
> 4 5 9.48 142 -29 1.5 1.3 3.4
> 1.2 #5
> 5 6 6.08 166.5 -18 0.2 0.4 2.2
> 0.8 #6
> 6 7 3.22 154 -09 2.0 0.8 0.5
> 0.5 #7
> 7 8 1.75 140 -04 1.7 0.6 1.1
> 1.0 #8
> 8 9 9.27 178.5 -12.5 1.2 1.3 0.5
> 1.0 #9
> 9 10 1.6 159.5 -20.5 0.2 1.3 0.6
> 0.6 #10
> 10 11 2.95 156 -11 0.9 0.3 1.0
> 0.2 #11
> 11 12 5.36 131 +03 1.5 1.2 6.7
> 0.5 #12
> 12 13 8.17 124.5 +06 0 0.7 6.2
> 1.6 #13
> 13 14 8.37 132 +7.5 0.9 2.7 2.2
> 1.8 #14
> 14 15 8.81 147 -10 0.8 2.1 5.4
> 1.4 #15
> 15 16 5.75 235 -10.5 0 1.0 5.6
> 1.0 #16
> 16 17 6.54 272 +2 0.7 0 5.1
> 1.3 #17
> 17 18 2.81 245 -19 0 0.3 0.4
> 0.6 #18
> 18 19 7.54 262 0 0 1.7 5.1
> 0.8 #19
> 19 20 6.03 263 -2 1.0 0.6 3.6
> 0.7 #20
> 20 21 2.26 205 -2 0 0.6 0.6
> 0.5 #21
> 20 20a 4 325 0 0 1 2
> 0.5 #20a estimated LRUD
> 21 22 4.58 162 +9 0.7 0 5.2
> 1.3 #22
> 22 23 4.15 144 -4 1.0 0.2 0.5
> 1.0 #23
> 23 24 13.68 140.5 -2.5 1.5 1.5 4.9
> 0.6 #24
> 24 25 8.61 216 +6 0 2.3 1.5
> 1.8 #25
> 25 26 4.58 304 -13 1.1 0.9 1.8
> 1.0 #26
> 26 27 12.65 281 +1 0.4 1.2 2.2
> 1.3 #27
> 27 28 5.59 304 -5 0.8 1.2 1.2
> 0.9 #28
> 28 29 5.46 275 -6 0.2 1.0 0.5
> 0.4 #29
> 29 30 3.63 312 +2 0.4 0 2.7
> 0.5 #30
> #31 30 10.16 103 -3.5 0.5 0.8 0.2 1.4 #31
> 30 31 10.16 283 +3.5 0.5 0.8 0.2
> 1.4 #31 REVERSED
> 31 32 4.48 276 +3 1.0 0.4 1.6
> 1.4 #32
> 32 33 8.42 286 -5 1.5 0.8 1.8
> 0.7 #33
> 33 34 14.82 271 +1 0.3 2.2 3.2
> 1.2 #34
> 34 35 20.06 290.5 +2 2.5 1 2
> 1.5 #35 estimated LRUD
> mark 35 painted # ==51 at Leg2
> endcentreline
> endsurvey # Leg1
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On
> Behalf Of Cooper, Ben
> Sent: 11 November 2007 19:56
> To: therion at speleo.sk
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Printing xvi maps (done with pdf's)
>
> Aha - thanks Stacho. I'm still on 0.5.0. Upgrading now...!
> Regards,
> - Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On
> Behalf Of Stacho Mudrak
> Sent: 08 November 2007 19:53
> To: therion at speleo.sk
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Printing xvi maps (done with pdf's)
>
> Just few remarks:
>
> 1. Did you use latest version of therion (0.5.1)? It is a new feature
> in that version.
>
> 2. You may also use other colors that gray. Just add
> color map-fg [100 50 50]
> to your layout. Numbers mean intensities of red, green and blue.
>
> 3. Options in layout and export command are the same. In layout, you
can
> use
>
> color map-fg 50
>
> and in export command option -layout-color map-fg 50
>
> HTH, S.
>
> Bruce Mutton wrote:
>> Ben
>> I tried Stacho's suggestion, and it worked fine, although I think he
>> abbreviated the syntax of the export command a bit much. Here's my
> more
>> verbose version...
>>
>> layout bruce-map-export
>> north true
>> scale 1 500
>> base-scale 1 500
>> units metric
>>
>> page-grid on
>> grid-size 100 100 100 metres
>> # layout-map-header 0 0 s #causes error?
>> legend on
>> statistics explo all
>> statistics topo all
>> statistics carto all
>> statistics copyright all
>> debug on
>> endlayout
>>
>> export map -projection plan -layout bruce-map-export \
>> -layout-color map-fg 90 \
>> -output SurveyPlan.pdf -fmt pdf
>>
>> Try this Ben. The 90 gives a passage that is more lightly shaded
than
> 50.
>> Good Luck
>> Bruce
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On
> Behalf
>> Of Cooper, Ben
>> Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 3:44 a.m.
>> To: therion at speleo.sk
>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Printing xvi maps
>>
>> Hi Stacho,
>> I've been wanting to get print-outs of XVI, too, so I am verry
>> interested in your recommendation, below. I've tried it, but this is
>> the result I get: only the centreline is visible, not LRUD.
>> - Ben Cooper
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On
>> Behalf Of Stacho Mudrak
>> Sent: 06 November 2007 12:24
>> To: therion at speleo.sk
>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Printing xvi maps
>>
>>
>> ...<text removed>...
>>
>> Stacho's Example:
>>
>> source
>> map centerline-map
>> my-survey
>> endmap
>> endsource
>>
>> select centerline-map
>> export map.pdf -layout-color map-fg 50 -layout-scale 1 500
>>
>>
>> ... where my-survey is the name of top-level survey.
>>
>> ...<text removed>...
>>
>> Regards, S.
>>
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