Further to Robert Countess's post, with which I cannot help, I just continue to wonder at why Mac's are deemed to be so 'easy to use'. Does anyone (Footleg?) have a converter which will take Walls data & import it into a format acceptable to Therion? I have some, though by no means as much as Robert. Graham <mailto:graham.mullan@coly.org.uk> graham.mullan@coly.org.uk In the UK: 0117 9502556 or 07887637064 France from the UK: 0844 2327803 In France: 05 53 51 19 15 or 06 02 53 37 81