kml export is not working
Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten
I am using 5.4.4 as well but on Win 10 I use: export model -o Output/PathToYourCave.kml This works fine for me. Adding -fmt kml to the line also works. To be honest I am struggling to break it unless I do something very wrong. Do you get a warning when compiling? It is strange that you get an output but it seems to contains nothing. I have spent a short while attempting to mirror that with some of my data that but have failed. Do you get the same result with export map -fmt kml? Without seeing all your data all we can do is to try and break ours which is perhaps not the best way to find an answer. Hopefully someone will have seen this behaviour before and know what is wrong. I will try again later. Nick From: Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: 02 December 2019 13:35 To: therion@speleo.sk Cc: Torsten Schnitter <torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de> Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten
Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system. From: Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM To: therion@speleo.sk Cc: Torsten Schnitter Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Just got there before me John. You are correct no coords but there is not much else either. I can edit the kml and insert coords name and icon and the file opens as expected but no centreline/splays or map outline in the case of model output. Also, if you try to compile Therion and ask for kml output and there are no coords in the .th then it fails with a warning. I think there is something else going on and we need to see all the data. From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of John Stevens Sent: 02 December 2019 21:38 To: therion@speleo.sk Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system. From: Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM To: therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Torsten Schnitter Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk<mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Hello I have stripped down all the data to the minimum. You can find all attached in the zip file. As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? Anyhow. If you have a look at the "thconfig-survey.thc" file you can find some "DOES NOT WORK" and "DOES WORK" statements. Beside this when not selecting anything it also does work with the kml export. What also does NOT work is selecting all lines (wihat should be the same as selecting nothing). When I do select the map "survey_southpassage_plan_m" it does work. This map does have the same lines like the first part in the thconfig-survey.thc file which is not working. May be there is something wrong in the select command? regards, Torsten
Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com> hat am 2. Dezember 2019 um 23:19 geschrieben:
Just got there before me John. You are correct no coords but there is not much else either. I can edit the kml and insert coords name and icon and the file opens as expected but no centreline/splays or map outline in the case of model output. Also, if you try to compile Therion and ask for kml output and there are no coords in the .th then it fails with a warning.
I think there is something else going on and we need to see all the data.
From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of John Stevens Sent: 02 December 2019 21:38 To: therion@speleo.sk Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system.
From: Torsten Schnitter via Therion
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM
To: therion@speleo.sk mailto:therion@speleo.sk
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Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working
Hello
I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file.
In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window)
Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system.
But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it.
Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
regards, Torsten
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As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? You are correct, as long as you input the georeferenced survey in the top level directory you can toggle any output on and off with select in the survey structure.
I had a quick look at your files and struggled a bit with the structure, I will try and work it out tonight. From: Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: 03 December 2019 07:41 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Torsten Schnitter <torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working Hello I have stripped down all the data to the minimum. You can find all attached in the zip file. As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? Anyhow. If you have a look at the "thconfig-survey.thc" file you can find some "DOES NOT WORK" and "DOES WORK" statements. Beside this when not selecting anything it also does work with the kml export. What also does NOT work is selecting all lines (wihat should be the same as selecting nothing). When I do select the map "survey_southpassage_plan_m" it does work. This map does have the same lines like the first part in the thconfig-survey.thc file which is not working. May be there is something wrong in the select command? regards, Torsten Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com<mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com>> hat am 2. Dezember 2019 um 23:19 geschrieben: Just got there before me John. You are correct no coords but there is not much else either. I can edit the kml and insert coords name and icon and the file opens as expected but no centreline/splays or map outline in the case of model output. Also, if you try to compile Therion and ask for kml output and there are no coords in the .th then it fails with a warning. I think there is something else going on and we need to see all the data. From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk<mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>> On Behalf Of John Stevens Sent: 02 December 2019 21:38 To: therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system. From: Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM To: therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Torsten Schnitter Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk<mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk<mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Pretty sure you can’t use “CS lat-long”. I can get it to work by stripping back to just using reseau_de_louysse_surveys_dry2_2012_09.th and swapping it for “cs EPSG:32651” but then it puts it in completely the wrong place, however it does populate the kml file correctly. Henry From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Nick Bairstow Sent: 03 December 2019 11:44 To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? You are correct, as long as you input the georeferenced survey in the top level directory you can toggle any output on and off with select in the survey structure.
I had a quick look at your files and struggled a bit with the structure, I will try and work it out tonight. From: Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: 03 December 2019 07:41 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> Cc: Torsten Schnitter <torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de<mailto:torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de>> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working Hello I have stripped down all the data to the minimum. You can find all attached in the zip file. As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? Anyhow. If you have a look at the "thconfig-survey.thc" file you can find some "DOES NOT WORK" and "DOES WORK" statements. Beside this when not selecting anything it also does work with the kml export. What also does NOT work is selecting all lines (wihat should be the same as selecting nothing). When I do select the map "survey_southpassage_plan_m" it does work. This map does have the same lines like the first part in the thconfig-survey.thc file which is not working. May be there is something wrong in the select command? regards, Torsten Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com<mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com>> hat am 2. Dezember 2019 um 23:19 geschrieben: Just got there before me John. You are correct no coords but there is not much else either. I can edit the kml and insert coords name and icon and the file opens as expected but no centreline/splays or map outline in the case of model output. Also, if you try to compile Therion and ask for kml output and there are no coords in the .th then it fails with a warning. I think there is something else going on and we need to see all the data. From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk<mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>> On Behalf Of John Stevens Sent: 02 December 2019 21:38 To: therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system. From: Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM To: therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Torsten Schnitter Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk<mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk<mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Hi Torsten, Would it be cs UTM31N (I use UTM30N for spain so assume that you're UTM31N for the lot) I find the UTM from geoplaner normally, not sure who suggested it, but it's a good shout https://www.geoplaner.com/ Worth checking it out on Geoplaner, as its giving me the UTM31N for your coordinates as being 390214 4960303 so i'd say you should try: cs UTM31N fix 9 0390214 4960303 105 Marco gives a couple of the coordinate systems that you can use http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/m_02/m_02a.htm Marco doesn't give cs osgb:sk but I know it can be used (If it's in the uk, because of course the British have to be different 🙁 ) Regards, Alastair Gott. AlastairGott@hotmail.com, M: 07931779380. ________________________________ From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> on behalf of Henry.Bennett@dell.com <Henry.Bennett@dell.com> Sent: 04 December 2019 16:52 To: therion@speleo.sk <therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working Pretty sure you can’t use “CS lat-long”. I can get it to work by stripping back to just using reseau_de_louysse_surveys_dry2_2012_09.th and swapping it for “cs EPSG:32651” but then it puts it in completely the wrong place, however it does populate the kml file correctly. Henry From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Nick Bairstow Sent: 03 December 2019 11:44 To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that?
You are correct, as long as you input the georeferenced survey in the top level directory you can toggle any output on and off with select in the survey structure. I had a quick look at your files and struggled a bit with the structure, I will try and work it out tonight. From: Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: 03 December 2019 07:41 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> Cc: Torsten Schnitter <torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de<mailto:torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de>> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working Hello I have stripped down all the data to the minimum. You can find all attached in the zip file. As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? Anyhow. If you have a look at the "thconfig-survey.thc" file you can find some "DOES NOT WORK" and "DOES WORK" statements. Beside this when not selecting anything it also does work with the kml export. What also does NOT work is selecting all lines (wihat should be the same as selecting nothing). When I do select the map "survey_southpassage_plan_m" it does work. This map does have the same lines like the first part in the thconfig-survey.thc file which is not working. May be there is something wrong in the select command? regards, Torsten Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com<mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com>> hat am 2. Dezember 2019 um 23:19 geschrieben: Just got there before me John. You are correct no coords but there is not much else either. I can edit the kml and insert coords name and icon and the file opens as expected but no centreline/splays or map outline in the case of model output. Also, if you try to compile Therion and ask for kml output and there are no coords in the .th then it fails with a warning. I think there is something else going on and we need to see all the data. From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk<mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>> On Behalf Of John Stevens Sent: 02 December 2019 21:38 To: therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system. From: Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM To: therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Torsten Schnitter Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk<mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk<mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Hi Alastair, hi Henry Thanks for your thoughts. Unfortunately it doesn't make any difference. Coordinate system lat-long is supported as you can read in the Therion book on page 14. Therefore I don't see a reason not to use it. Beside this it did work in the past (can't say on which Therion version it was). And with some of the select statements it still works with lat-long. But I also tried to use "cs UTM31N". This didn't make any difference. Same select statements are working or not... like with "cs lat-long". regards, Torsten
alastair gott <alastairgott@hotmail.com> hat am 4. Dezember 2019 um 19:35 geschrieben:
Hi Torsten,
Would it be cs UTM31N (I use UTM30N for spain so assume that you're UTM31N for the lot)
I find the UTM from geoplaner normally, not sure who suggested it, but it's a good shout https://www.geoplaner.com/
Worth checking it out on Geoplaner, as its giving me the UTM31N for your coordinates as being 390214 4960303
so i'd say you should try: cs UTM31N fix 9 0 390214 4960303 105
Marco gives a couple of the coordinate systems that you can use
http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/m_02/m_02a.htm
Marco doesn't give cs osgb:sk but I know it can be used (If it's in the uk, because of course the British have to be different 🙁 )
Regards, Alastair Gott.
AlastairGott@hotmail.com, M: 07931779380.
--------------------------------------------- From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> on behalf of Henry.Bennett@dell.com <Henry.Bennett@dell.com> Sent: 04 December 2019 16:52 To: therion@speleo.sk <therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Pretty sure you can’t use “CS lat-long”. I can get it to work by stripping back to just using reseau_de_louysse_surveys_dry2_2012_09.th and swapping it for “cs EPSG:32651” but then it puts it in completely the wrong place, however it does populate the kml file correctly.
Henry
From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Nick Bairstow Sent: 03 December 2019 11:44 To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
[EXTERNAL EMAIL] >As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. >But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. >Am I wrong with that? You are correct, as long as you input the georeferenced survey in the top level directory you can toggle any output on and off with select in the survey structure.
I had a quick look at your files and struggled a bit with the structure, I will try and work it out tonight.
From: Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: 03 December 2019 07:41 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk mailto:therion@speleo.sk > Cc: Torsten Schnitter <torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de mailto:torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de > Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Hello I have stripped down all the data to the minimum. You can find all attached in the zip file. As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? Anyhow. If you have a look at the "thconfig-survey.thc" file you can find some "DOES NOT WORK" and "DOES WORK" statements. Beside this when not selecting anything it also does work with the kml export. What also does NOT work is selecting all lines (wihat should be the same as selecting nothing). When I do select the map "survey_southpassage_plan_m" it does work. This map does have the same lines like the first part in the thconfig-survey.thc file which is not working. May be there is something wrong in the select command? regards, Torsten
> > Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com > hat am 2. Dezember 2019 um 23:19 geschrieben:
Just got there before me John. You are correct no coords but there is not much else either. I can edit the kml and insert coords name and icon and the file opens as expected but no centreline/splays or map outline in the case of model output. Also, if you try to compile Therion and ask for kml output and there are no coords in the .th then it fails with a warning. I think there is something else going on and we need to see all the data.
From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk > On Behalf Of John Stevens Sent: 02 December 2019 21:38 To: therion@speleo.sk mailto:therion@speleo.sk Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system.
From: Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM To: therion@speleo.sk mailto:therion@speleo.sk Cc: Torsten Schnitter Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working
Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten
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Hi Torsten, With this thconfig it works on mac. Best, Phil
On 5 Dec 2019, at 08:51, Torsten Schnitter via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote:
Hi Alastair, hi Henry
Thanks for your thoughts. Unfortunately it doesn't make any difference.
Coordinate system lat-long is supported as you can read in the Therion book on page 14. Therefore I don't see a reason not to use it. Beside this it did work in the past (can't say on which Therion version it was). And with some of the select statements it still works with lat-long.
But I also tried to use "cs UTM31N". This didn't make any difference. Same select statements are working or not... like with "cs lat-long".
regards, Torsten
alastair gott <alastairgott@hotmail.com> hat am 4. Dezember 2019 um 19:35 geschrieben:
Hi Torsten,
Would it be cs UTM31N (I use UTM30N for spain so assume that you're UTM31N for the lot)
I find the UTM from geoplaner normally, not sure who suggested it, but it's a good shout https://www.geoplaner.com/ <https://www.geoplaner.com/>
Worth checking it out on Geoplaner, as its giving me the UTM31N for your coordinates as being 390214 4960303
so i'd say you should try: cs UTM31N fix 9 0 390214 4960303 105
Marco gives a couple of the coordinate systems that you can use
http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/m_02/m_02a.htm <http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/m_02/m_02a.htm>
Marco doesn't give cs osgb:sk but I know it can be used (If it's in the uk, because of course the British have to be different 🙁 )
Regards, Alastair Gott.
AlastairGott@hotmail.com, M: 07931779380.
From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> on behalf of Henry.Bennett@dell.com <Henry.Bennett@dell.com> Sent: 04 December 2019 16:52 To: therion@speleo.sk <therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Pretty sure you can’t use “CS lat-long”. I can get it to work by stripping back to just using reseau_de_louysse_surveys_dry2_2012_09.th and swapping it for “cs EPSG:32651” but then it puts it in completely the wrong place, however it does populate the kml file correctly.
Henry
From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Nick Bairstow Sent: 03 December 2019 11:44 To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
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As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? You are correct, as long as you input the georeferenced survey in the top level directory you can toggle any output on and off with select in the survey structure.
I had a quick look at your files and struggled a bit with the structure, I will try and work it out tonight.
From: Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>] On Behalf Of Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: 03 December 2019 07:41 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> Cc: Torsten Schnitter <torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de <mailto:torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de>> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Hello I have stripped down all the data to the minimum. You can find all attached in the zip file. As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? Anyhow. If you have a look at the "thconfig-survey.thc" file you can find some "DOES NOT WORK" and "DOES WORK" statements. Beside this when not selecting anything it also does work with the kml export. What also does NOT work is selecting all lines (wihat should be the same as selecting nothing). When I do select the map "survey_southpassage_plan_m" it does work. This map does have the same lines like the first part in the thconfig-survey.thc file which is not working. May be there is something wrong in the select command? regards, Torsten Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com <mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com>> hat am 2. Dezember 2019 um 23:19 geschrieben: Just got there before me John. You are correct no coords but there is not much else either. I can edit the kml and insert coords name and icon and the file opens as expected but no centreline/splays or map outline in the case of model output. Also, if you try to compile Therion and ask for kml output and there are no coords in the .th then it fails with a warning. I think there is something else going on and we need to see all the data.
From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>> On Behalf Of John Stevens Sent: 02 December 2019 21:38 To: therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system.
From: Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM To: therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Torsten Schnitter Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working
Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk <mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion <https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion>
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Hi Phil Thanks. If I don't select any line, survey or map it also works on windows. But does it work on your mac if you uncomment the first 5 statements "select line_.... " ? regards, Torsten
Philippe Vernant <phil.vernant@gmail.com> hat am 5. Dezember 2019 um 10:24 geschrieben:
Hi Torsten,
With this thconfig it works on mac.
Best, Phil
> > On 5 Dec 2019, at 08:51, Torsten Schnitter via Therion < therion@speleo.sk mailto:therion@speleo.sk > wrote:
Hi Alastair, hi Henry
Thanks for your thoughts. Unfortunately it doesn't make any difference.
Coordinate system lat-long is supported as you can read in the Therion book on page 14. Therefore I don't see a reason not to use it. Beside this it did work in the past (can't say on which Therion version it was). And with some of the select statements it still works with lat-long.
But I also tried to use "cs UTM31N". This didn't make any difference. Same select statements are working or not... like with "cs lat-long".
regards, Torsten
> > > alastair gott < alastairgott@hotmail.com mailto:alastairgott@hotmail.com > hat am 4. Dezember 2019 um 19:35 geschrieben:
Hi Torsten,
Would it be cs UTM31N (I use UTM30N for spain so assume that you're UTM31N for the lot)
I find the UTM from geoplaner normally, not sure who suggested it, but it's a good shout https://www.geoplaner.com/
Worth checking it out on Geoplaner, as its giving me the UTM31N for your coordinates as being 390214 4960303
so i'd say you should try: cs UTM31N fix 9 0 390214 4960303 105
Marco gives a couple of the coordinate systems that you can use
http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/m_02/m_02a.htm
Marco doesn't give cs osgb:sk but I know it can be used (If it's in the uk, because of course the British have to be different 🙁 )
Regards, Alastair Gott.
AlastairGott@hotmail.com mailto:AlastairGott@hotmail.com , M: 07931779380.
--------------------------------------------- From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk > on behalf of Henry.Bennett@dell.com mailto:Henry.Bennett@dell.com <Henry.Bennett@dell.com mailto:Henry.Bennett@dell.com > Sent: 04 December 2019 16:52 To: therion@speleo.sk mailto:therion@speleo.sk <therion@speleo.sk mailto:therion@speleo.sk > Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Pretty sure you can’t use “CS lat-long”. I can get it to work by stripping back to just usinghttp://reseau_de_louysse_surveys_dry2_2012_09.th and swapping it for “cs EPSG:32651” but then it puts it in completely the wrong place, however it does populate the kml file correctly.
Henry
From: Therion < therion-bounces@speleo.sk mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk > On Behalf Of Nick Bairstow Sent: 03 December 2019 11:44 To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
[EXTERNAL EMAIL] > As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. >But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. >Am I wrong with that? You are correct, as long as you input the georeferenced survey in the top level directory you can toggle any output on and off with select in the survey structure.
I had a quick look at your files and struggled a bit with the structure, I will try and work it out tonight.
From: Therion [ mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: 03 December 2019 07:41 To: List for Therion users < therion@speleo.sk mailto:therion@speleo.sk > Cc: Torsten Schnitter < torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de mailto:torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de > Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Hello I have stripped down all the data to the minimum. You can find all attached in the zip file. As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? Anyhow. If you have a look at the "thconfig-survey.thc" file you can find some "DOES NOT WORK" and "DOES WORK" statements. Beside this when not selecting anything it also does work with the kml export. What also does NOT work is selecting all lines (wihat should be the same as selecting nothing). When I do select the map "survey_southpassage_plan_m" it does work. This map does have the same lines like the first part in the thconfig-survey.thc file which is not working. May be there is something wrong in the select command? regards, Torsten
> > > > Nick Bairstow < Nick@pff.uk.com mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com > hat am 2. Dezember 2019 um 23:19 geschrieben:
Just got there before me John. You are correct no coords but there is not much else either. I can edit the kml and insert coords name and icon and the file opens as expected but no centreline/splays or map outline in the case of model output. Also, if you try to compile Therion and ask for kml output and there are no coords in the .th then it fails with a warning. I think there is something else going on and we need to see all the data.
From: Therion < therion-bounces@speleo.sk mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk > On Behalf Of John Stevens Sent: 02 December 2019 21:38 To: therion@speleo.sk mailto:therion@speleo.sk Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system.
From: Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM To: therion@speleo.sk mailto:therion@speleo.sk Cc: Torsten Schnitter Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working
Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten
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No it does not work. Best, Phil
On 5 Dec 2019, at 10:34, Torsten Schnitter via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote:
Hi Phil
Thanks. If I don't select any line, survey or map it also works on windows.
But does it work on your mac if you uncomment the first 5 statements "select line_.... " ?
regards, Torsten
Philippe Vernant <phil.vernant@gmail.com> hat am 5. Dezember 2019 um 10:24 geschrieben:
Hi Torsten,
With this thconfig it works on mac.
Best, Phil
On 5 Dec 2019, at 08:51, Torsten Schnitter via Therion < therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> wrote:
Hi Alastair, hi Henry
Thanks for your thoughts. Unfortunately it doesn't make any difference.
Coordinate system lat-long is supported as you can read in the Therion book on page 14. Therefore I don't see a reason not to use it. Beside this it did work in the past (can't say on which Therion version it was). And with some of the select statements it still works with lat-long.
But I also tried to use "cs UTM31N". This didn't make any difference. Same select statements are working or not... like with "cs lat-long".
regards, Torsten
alastair gott < alastairgott@hotmail.com <mailto:alastairgott@hotmail.com>> hat am 4. Dezember 2019 um 19:35 geschrieben:
Hi Torsten,
Would it be cs UTM31N (I use UTM30N for spain so assume that you're UTM31N for the lot)
I find the UTM from geoplaner normally, not sure who suggested it, but it's a good shout https://www.geoplaner.com/ <https://www.geoplaner.com/>
Worth checking it out on Geoplaner, as its giving me the UTM31N for your coordinates as being 390214 4960303
so i'd say you should try: cs UTM31N fix 9 0 390214 4960303 105
Marco gives a couple of the coordinate systems that you can use
http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/m_02/m_02a.htm <http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/m_02/m_02a.htm>
Marco doesn't give cs osgb:sk but I know it can be used (If it's in the uk, because of course the British have to be different 🙁 )
Regards, Alastair Gott.
AlastairGott@hotmail.com <mailto:AlastairGott@hotmail.com>, M: 07931779380.
From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>> on behalf of Henry.Bennett@dell.com <mailto:Henry.Bennett@dell.com> <Henry.Bennett@dell.com <mailto:Henry.Bennett@dell.com>> Sent: 04 December 2019 16:52 To: therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Pretty sure you can’t use “CS lat-long”. I can get it to work by stripping back to just using reseau_de_louysse_surveys_dry2_2012_09.th <http://reseau_de_louysse_surveys_dry2_2012_09.th/> and swapping it for “cs EPSG:32651” but then it puts it in completely the wrong place, however it does populate the kml file correctly.
Henry
From: Therion < therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>> On Behalf Of Nick Bairstow Sent: 03 December 2019 11:44 To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
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As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? You are correct, as long as you input the georeferenced survey in the top level directory you can toggle any output on and off with select in the survey structure.
I had a quick look at your files and struggled a bit with the structure, I will try and work it out tonight.
From: Therion [ mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>] On Behalf Of Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: 03 December 2019 07:41 To: List for Therion users < therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> Cc: Torsten Schnitter < torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de <mailto:torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de>> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Hello I have stripped down all the data to the minimum. You can find all attached in the zip file. As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. Am I wrong with that? Anyhow. If you have a look at the "thconfig-survey.thc" file you can find some "DOES NOT WORK" and "DOES WORK" statements. Beside this when not selecting anything it also does work with the kml export. What also does NOT work is selecting all lines (wihat should be the same as selecting nothing). When I do select the map "survey_southpassage_plan_m" it does work. This map does have the same lines like the first part in the thconfig-survey.thc file which is not working. May be there is something wrong in the select command? regards, Torsten Nick Bairstow < Nick@pff.uk.com <mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com>> hat am 2. Dezember 2019 um 23:19 geschrieben: Just got there before me John. You are correct no coords but there is not much else either. I can edit the kml and insert coords name and icon and the file opens as expected but no centreline/splays or map outline in the case of model output. Also, if you try to compile Therion and ask for kml output and there are no coords in the .th then it fails with a warning. I think there is something else going on and we need to see all the data.
From: Therion < therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>> On Behalf Of John Stevens Sent: 02 December 2019 21:38 To: therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] kml export is not working
Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system.
From: Torsten Schnitter via Therion Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM To: therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Torsten Schnitter Subject: [Therion] kml export is not working
Hello I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7. Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command". (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) Generating a pdf file with: export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan is doing exactly what I want to have. The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails: export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml This file does not have any survey data in it. Both files are attached. Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? regards, Torsten _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk <mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion <https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion>
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