I have created an IRC channel for therion discussions - either about drawing or development. I don't know how many other users find IRC useful, but I know I do. It is #therion at irc.oftc.net Come and hang out - it's quite lonely at the moment :-) Wookey -- Aleph One Ltd, Bottisham, CAMBRIDGE, CB5 9BA, UK Tel +44 (0) 1223 811679 work: http://www.aleph1.co.uk/ play: http://wookware.org/