Use splay shots as sketch morphing extra points
In my transition from paper to paperless survey, I have do a few survey recording only the data from the DistoX2 with the tablet and draw the sketch in paper.Now I am try to do a better sketch morphing using the splays data. It is possible to use the splay shots to make extra points to do better sketch morphing? Evaristo Quiroga
Hi Evaristo, Yes you can, you can create a .xvi file by running therion with just the .th file of the survey. It will create a .xvi file that you can use in your .th2 file to do a better sketch morphing. Best, Phil
On 25 Sep 2017, at 21:32 PM, Evaristo Quiroga via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote:
In my transition from paper to paperless survey, I have do a few survey recording only the data from the DistoX2 with the tablet and draw the sketch in paper. Now I am try to do a better sketch morphing using the splays data.
It is possible to use the splay shots to make extra points to do better sketch morphing?
Evaristo Quiroga
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Hi Phil, I have made a xvi file like you comment, but I want to use it to morph the scanned field sketches. I don’t know how to use the xvi to put the extra point, like I do with the stations. Regards, Evaristo Quiroga El 25/09/2017 a las 22:16, Philippe Vernant via Therion escribió:
Hi Evaristo,
Yes you can, you can create a .xvi file by running therion with just the .th file of the survey. It will create a .xvi file that you can use in your .th2 file to do a better sketch morphing.
Best, Phil
On 25 Sep 2017, at 21:32 PM, Evaristo Quiroga via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> wrote:
In my transition from paper to paperless survey, I have do a few survey recording only the data from the DistoX2 with the tablet and draw the sketch in paper.Now I am try to do a better sketch morphing using the splays data.
It is possible to use the splay shots to make extra points to do better sketch morphing?
Evaristo Quiroga
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Hi Evarista, I am not a guru of distox2 + splays, and I may misunderstand your email, but in case it can help : In your .th file, the splay data are defined with a « -« either in the from point or in the to point. In consequence, you have no point attached to the splay data. If you want to use some of the splay data for morphing, I imagine that you need to turn them to real points, i.e. you need to change the « -« by the name of a new station. Depending of the number of splay you plan to use, it can be lots of work to find/transform them. if you do not want to take in account the shot in the cave statistics, you may use the flag : flags <shot> duplicate (p19 of the thbook). Cheers, Xav
Le 25 sept. 2017 à 15:49, Evaristo Quiroga via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> a écrit :
Hi Phil, I have made a xvi file like you comment, but I want to use it to morph the scanned field sketches. I don’t know how to use the xvi to put the extra point, like I do with the stations.
Regards,
Evaristo Quiroga
El 25/09/2017 a las 22:16, Philippe Vernant via Therion escribió:
Hi Evaristo,
Yes you can, you can create a .xvi file by running therion with just the .th file of the survey. It will create a .xvi file that you can use in your .th2 file to do a better sketch morphing.
Best, Phil
On 25 Sep 2017, at 21:32 PM, Evaristo Quiroga via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> wrote:
In my transition from paper to paperless survey, I have do a few survey recording only the data from the DistoX2 with the tablet and draw the sketch in paper. Now I am try to do a better sketch morphing using the splays data.
It is possible to use the splay shots to make extra points to do better sketch morphing?
Evaristo Quiroga
Hi Xavier, I can make a .th file copy to use only to morph the sketch; and to define new stations for a few splay shots. I will try your solution to a little survey and compare with Martin solution to use the LRUD. Thanks, Evaristo Quiroga El 26/09/2017 a las 2:02, Xavier Robert via Therion escribió:
Hi Evarista,
I am not a guru of distox2 + splays, and I may misunderstand your email, but in case it can help : In your .th file, the splay data are defined with a « -« either in the from point or in the to point. In consequence, you have no point attached to the splay data. If you want to use some of the splay data for morphing, I imagine that you need to turn them to real points, i.e. you need to change the « -« by the name of a new station. Depending of the number of splay you plan to use, it can be lots of work to find/transform them. if you do not want to take in account the shot in the cave statistics, you may use the flag : flags <shot> duplicate (p19 of the thbook).
Cheers,
Xav
Le 25 sept. 2017 à 15:49, Evaristo Quiroga via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> a écrit :
Hi Phil,
I have made a xvi file like you comment, but I want to use it to morph the scanned field sketches. I don’t know how to use the xvi to put the extra point, like I do with the stations.
Regards,
Evaristo Quiroga
El 25/09/2017 a las 22:16, Philippe Vernant via Therion escribió:
Hi Evaristo,
Yes you can, you can create a .xvi file by running therion with just the .th file of the survey. It will create a .xvi file that you can use in your .th2 file to do a better sketch morphing.
Best, Phil
On 25 Sep 2017, at 21:32 PM, Evaristo Quiroga via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> wrote:
In my transition from paper to paperless survey, I have do a few survey recording only the data from the DistoX2 with the tablet and draw the sketch in paper.Now I am try to do a better sketch morphing using the splays data.
It is possible to use the splay shots to make extra points to do better sketch morphing?
Evaristo Quiroga
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Evaristo - check Samples in Therion installation. There is one sample with exactly what you want. But there are used only points perpendicular to survey shots and command „dimension“. Those samples should be last part of Thbook too. m.s.
25. 9. 2017 v 21:32, Evaristo Quiroga via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>:
In my transition from paper to paperless survey, I have do a few survey recording only the data from the DistoX2 with the tablet and draw the sketch in paper. Now I am try to do a better sketch morphing using the splays data.
It is possible to use the splay shots to make extra points to do better sketch morphing?
Evaristo Quiroga
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Hi Martin, Can Therion automatically rebuild the LRUD dimensions from the splays shots? If not the Topodroid export to compass rebuild LRUD dimensions. And I can convert the .dat compass file to .th with Auriga. Thanks, Evaristo Quiroga El 26/09/2017 a las 8:05, Martin Sluka via Therion escribió:
Evaristo - check Samples in Therion installation. There is one sample with exactly what you want. But there are used only points perpendicular to survey shots and command „dimension“. Those samples should be last part of Thbook too.
m.s.
25. 9. 2017 v 21:32, Evaristo Quiroga via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>>:
In my transition from paper to paperless survey, I have do a few survey recording only the data from the DistoX2 with the tablet and draw the sketch in paper.Now I am try to do a better sketch morphing using the splays data.
It is possible to use the splay shots to make extra points to do better sketch morphing?
Evaristo Quiroga
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Dimension is very old command in Therion from times when people use hand sketches not in scale very often. Check that example: m.s. On Sep 26, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Evaristo Quiroga via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote: Hi Martin, Can Therion automatically rebuild the LRUD dimensions from the splays shots? If not the Topodroid export to compass rebuild LRUD dimensions. And I can convert the .dat compass file to .th with Auriga. Thanks, Evaristo Quiroga El 26/09/2017 a las 8:05, Martin Sluka via Therion escribió: Evaristo - check Samples in Therion installation. There is one sample with exactly what you want. But there are used only points perpendicular to survey shots and command „dimension“. Those samples should be last part of Thbook too. m.s. 25. 9. 2017 v 21:32, Evaristo Quiroga via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>: In my transition from paper to paperless survey, I have do a few survey recording only the data from the DistoX2 with the tablet and draw the sketch in paper. Now I am try to do a better sketch morphing using the splays data. It is possible to use the splay shots to make extra points to do better sketch morphing? Evaristo Quiroga _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
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