Re: [Therion] Introduction and question about join-syntax
Hi Christian, I'm a french user of therion and use it for caves and also ancient mines as I'm an archaeologist specialised in this domain. I think it could be interesting to share our practise with this software, to see what feets well our needs and we specially need... So, if you think the same, let me know !! Thierry Christian Rößler (Roessler) a écrit :
Good day,
first let me introduce myself, perhaps: I am (of course) new to the Therion list. Well, I am from southern germany, the black forest, to be exact; and I am primarily interested in abandoned mines, not in caves. So I went on the search for a capable map-making software, found Therion and started with it - please bear with my as I am posting surely some stupid beginner's mistakes.
Very nice software, Therion, by the way; and many thanks to the developers.
But I have some problems. We are used to make lrud data when surveying mines, so I am bound to lrud (left-right-up-down I mean). I have come as far as mapping a single centerline successfully, but when I try to join two centerlines at the appropriate point I am stuck. I have tried al lot of possible join-syntaxes, so I fear my error lies perhaps deeper.
I always get: | therion: error -- can not connect 0@Eisenbach_2.Eisenbach to centerline | network
I have a master file [eisenbach_hotel.thconfig] with just one line in it: | source eisenbach_hotel.th
[eisenbach_hotel.th] reads: | survey Eisenbach -title "Hotelstollen Eisenbach Intervall 1" | input eisenbach_hotel_intervall_1.th | input eisenbach_hotel_intervall_2.th | join Eisenbach_2@0 Eisenbach_1@15.25:end | #join 0@Eisenbach_2.Eisenbach 14@Eisenbach_1.Eisenbach | endsurvey
If I out-comment one input line, no matter which, and insert an appropriate line with export in other place man I can successfully generate a background image for both after compiling, so I think the two data sets are ok. I have inserted these two sets below.
Please, can anyone give me a functioning join line, or, if the error lies elsewhere, point me in the right direction?
Many thanks, Christian
The tho data sets: [eisenbach_hotel_intervall_1.th]: | survey Eisenbach_1 -title "Eisenbach 1. Intervall" | centerline | date 2007.11.08 | declination -2 degrees | team "CHR" | data normal from to length compass clino left right up down | 0 2 2 340 1 0.55 1.30 1.40 0 | [ ... data in between snipped for brevity] | 14 15.25 1.25 340 1 0.45 0.27 1.78 0 | endcenterline | endsurvey
[eisenbach_hotel_intervall_2.th]: | survey Eisenbach_2 -title "Eisenbach 2. Intervall" | centerline | date 2007.11.08 | declination -2 degrees | team "CHR" | data normal from to length compass clino left right up down | 0 2 2 330 1 0.40 0.25 1.68 0 | [...] | 14 15.25 1.25 330 1 0.69 0.37 1.40 0 | endcenterline | endsurvey _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk http://www.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion
Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 19:14 schrieb Thierry Gonon: Hi Thierry,
I'm a french user of therion and use it for caves and also ancient mines as I'm an archaeologist specialised in this domain. I think it could be interesting to share our practise with this software, to see what feets well our needs and we specially need...
This would be a very good idea! But you (and other miners here) are surely way more experienced with Therion than I, and while I learn fast it will take some time until I have interesting things to share. But that time will come soon as I have always a mine to survey, and I plan to do the work with therion. And I must confess that I have not the foggiest thought what the differences in surveying needs between caves and mines are, as I explored many mines but never a cave. Also I am of course unsure whether my needs or problems now (as a beginner) are trivial to solve with therion or are mining-specific in that sense. Currently I am anyway stuck as I have problems to generate .pdf files showing outlines and generally make pdf's to my liking (while eg. <http://www.nabble.com/Printing-xvi-maps-t4757317.html> helped a bit). Another problem that comes to my mind is that I have no idea to cope with the following eg.: I took lrud measurements along a mine galley, and noticed the endpoint of the measuring tape being badly placed. So I took a point, like "45cm to the right (in right angle to tape)", and continued with the next 'line of tape' (polygon stroke?) from there. So I have a piece of 'ghost centerline' I do not know how to get rid off that also counts in length of the mine, so to say. Any suggestions here would be most helpful as I have more surveying data involving such cases. Well, a great help would be if anyone could point me to an example of a therion example of a small mine with just a shaft and some galleys (or give me one; I would of course only use it personally as an example). I have some difficulties with applying the examples at <http://therion.speleo.sk/download.php> to my first mine. Greetings, Christian
Christian Rößler (Roessler) wrote.. So I have a piece of 'ghost centerline' I do not know how to get rid off that also counts in length of the mine, so to say. Any suggestions here would be most helpful as I have more surveying data involving such cases. Christian Try the following within a block of centreline data... <survey legs to be counted in length of mine> flags duplicate <duplicated survey legs here> flags not duplicate <survey legs to be counted in length of mine> Regards Bruce
Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2007 19:20 schrieb Bruce Mutton:
So I have a piece of 'ghost centerline' I do not know how to get rid off that also counts in length of the mine, so to say. Any suggestions here would be most helpful as I have more surveying data involving such cases. Try the following within a block of centreline data... flags duplicate [...] flags not duplicate
Thank you! Works like a charm! Merci, Christian
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Thierry Gonon