My take on a new Therion map editor
Hi everyone! I'm a university student and I decided to try and make an XTherion replacement as a short term project. I have seen the activity here around making a new version of XTherion that would overhaul the current workflow of Therion projects. These proposals look exciting and great, but what I focused on was just creating an editor for TH2 files, that only replaces the map editor part of XTherion, and otherwise affects nothing about how you use Therion. It is most similar to the TH2 importer and exporter for Inkscape. Demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpogxtt_4TI This is only a feature showcase, the app is not ready to use yet, but you can try it out. The editor was built from the base of a regular vector graphics editing app, similarly to the Inkscape plugin. The whole app runs in a web browser, it's written in JavaScript and TypeScript, and it should run on all modern browsers. I have tried to set a very small scope for this project, this is why I didn't try to create a complete vector graphics editor and used an existing one. There is also no WYSIWYG editing, which would be hard to achieve without reimplementing the whole of Therion (obviously outside the plans for this project). The scope and functionality is significantly smaller than the *QTherion *or *Mapiah *projects, and I would expect that this editor would not be useful once these projects are in a usable state. The editor also has less functionality than XTherion itself, which I see as a trade-off between speed/friendliness and having complete control. One of these is that in this editor all area objects are tied one-to-one with line objects. This may not be how all people use areas, but it is easier to understand and to show on screen, and it's how *TopoDroid *handles it. I think while this app is not everything you might want from an editor, it has clear advantages over XTherion and is more streamlined than the Inkscape plugins, and a lot closer to being complete than the Qt projects currently in development. The project's name is currently wtherion (because it's web-based and because of the other project names), but this may change. It's on GitHub here: https://github.com/daem-on/wtherion Hope that this will be useful in the future and I look forward to your feedback, Csongor
On 2022-01-15 15:40 +0100, Csongor Zih wrote:
I'm a university student and I decided to try and make an XTherion replacement as a short term project.
You wait 10 years for a new therion editor and then 3 come alaong all at once! It's like buses. :-) Good work, I'll take a look with interest. Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Debian, Wookware, ARM http://wookware.org/
Wow, the demo is really impressive! It would be great if you could join our next developers' online meeting (not scheduled yet). Cheers, Martin On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 3:40 PM Csongor Zih <daemon.onwave@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm a university student and I decided to try and make an XTherion replacement as a short term project. I have seen the activity here around making a new version of XTherion that would overhaul the current workflow of Therion projects. These proposals look exciting and great, but what I focused on was just creating an editor for TH2 files, that only replaces the map editor part of XTherion, and otherwise affects nothing about how you use Therion. It is most similar to the TH2 importer and exporter for Inkscape.
Demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpogxtt_4TI
This is only a feature showcase, the app is not ready to use yet, but you can try it out.
The editor was built from the base of a regular vector graphics editing app, similarly to the Inkscape plugin. The whole app runs in a web browser, it's written in JavaScript and TypeScript, and it should run on all modern browsers.
I have tried to set a very small scope for this project, this is why I didn't try to create a complete vector graphics editor and used an existing one. There is also no WYSIWYG editing, which would be hard to achieve without reimplementing the whole of Therion (obviously outside the plans for this project). The scope and functionality is significantly smaller than the QTherion or Mapiah projects, and I would expect that this editor would not be useful once these projects are in a usable state. The editor also has less functionality than XTherion itself, which I see as a trade-off between speed/friendliness and having complete control. One of these is that in this editor all area objects are tied one-to-one with line objects. This may not be how all people use areas, but it is easier to understand and to show on screen, and it's how TopoDroid handles it.
I think while this app is not everything you might want from an editor, it has clear advantages over XTherion and is more streamlined than the Inkscape plugins, and a lot closer to being complete than the Qt projects currently in development.
The project's name is currently wtherion (because it's web-based and because of the other project names), but this may change. It's on GitHub here: https://github.com/daem-on/wtherion
Hope that this will be useful in the future and I look forward to your feedback,
Csongor
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Nice, it looks really promising. Things like running on any platform out of the box, multiple object selection and freehand drawing could simplify life a lot. Looking forward to try it out, S. On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 21:20 Martin Budaj <m.budaj@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, the demo is really impressive! It would be great if you could join our next developers' online meeting (not scheduled yet).
Cheers, Martin
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 3:40 PM Csongor Zih <daemon.onwave@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm a university student and I decided to try and make an XTherion
replacement as a short term project. I have seen the activity here around making a new version of XTherion that would overhaul the current workflow of Therion projects. These proposals look exciting and great, but what I focused on was just creating an editor for TH2 files, that only replaces the map editor part of XTherion, and otherwise affects nothing about how you use Therion. It is most similar to the TH2 importer and exporter for Inkscape.
Demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpogxtt_4TI
This is only a feature showcase, the app is not ready to use yet, but
you can try it out.
The editor was built from the base of a regular vector graphics editing
app, similarly to the Inkscape plugin. The whole app runs in a web browser, it's written in JavaScript and TypeScript, and it should run on all modern browsers.
I have tried to set a very small scope for this project, this is why I
didn't try to create a complete vector graphics editor and used an existing one. There is also no WYSIWYG editing, which would be hard to achieve without reimplementing the whole of Therion (obviously outside the plans for this project). The scope and functionality is significantly smaller than the QTherion or Mapiah projects, and I would expect that this editor would not be useful once these projects are in a usable state. The editor also has less functionality than XTherion itself, which I see as a trade-off between speed/friendliness and having complete control. One of these is that in this editor all area objects are tied one-to-one with line objects. This may not be how all people use areas, but it is easier to understand and to show on screen, and it's how TopoDroid handles it.
I think while this app is not everything you might want from an editor,
it has clear advantages over XTherion and is more streamlined than the Inkscape plugins, and a lot closer to being complete than the Qt projects currently in development.
The project's name is currently wtherion (because it's web-based and
because of the other project names), but this may change. It's on GitHub here: https://github.com/daem-on/wtherion
Hope that this will be useful in the future and I look forward to your
feedback,
Csongor
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‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, January 15th, 2022 at 11:40 AM, Csongor Zih <daemon.onwave@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm a university student and I decided to try and make an XTherion replacement as a short term project. I have seen the activity here around making a new version of XTherion that would overhaul the current workflow of Therion projects. These proposals look exciting and great, but what I focused on was just creating an editor for TH2 files, that only replaces the map editor part of XTherion, and otherwise affects nothing about how you use Therion. It is most similar to the TH2 importer and exporter for Inkscape.
Demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpogxtt_4TI
This is only a feature showcase, the app is not ready to use yet, but you can try it out.
The editor was built from the base of a regular vector graphics editing app, similarly to the Inkscape plugin. The whole app runs in a web browser, it's written in JavaScript and TypeScript, and it should run on all modern browsers.
I have tried to set a very small scope for this project, this is why I didn't try to create a complete vector graphics editor and used an existing one. There is also no WYSIWYG editing, which would be hard to achieve without reimplementing the whole of Therion (obviously outside the plans for this project). The scope and functionality is significantly smaller than the QTherion or Mapiah projects, and I would expect that this editor would not be useful once these projects are in a usable state. The editor also has less functionality than XTherion itself, which I see as a trade-off between speed/friendliness and having complete control. One of these is that in this editor all area objects are tied one-to-one with line objects. This may not be how all people use areas, but it is easier to understand and to show on screen, and it's how TopoDroid handles it.
I think while this app is not everything you might want from an editor, it has clear advantages over XTherion and is more streamlined than the Inkscape plugins, and a lot closer to being complete than the Qt projects currently in development.
The project's name is currently wtherion (because it's web-based and because of the other project names), but this may change. It's on GitHub here: https://github.com/daem-on/wtherion
Hope that this will be useful in the future and I look forward to your feedback,
Csongor
It looks really good. Congratulations!! It would be great if you culd join us on the next dev meeting. Regards, Rodrigo Severo
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