Hi everyone, I need some help Identifying an "multiple scrap outer outlines not supported yet" error. I checked all of the lines for the right -outline definition and I am running out of ideas for what's causing this problem... the files are attached to this email many thanks to you all! --
Not any problem. Therion from December 6th. Martin
9. 12. 2019 v 19:16, עמרי גסטר <omrigas@gmail.com>:
Hi everyone, I need some help Identifying an "multiple scrap outer outlines not supported yet" error.
I checked all of the lines for the right -outline definition and I am running out of ideas for what's causing this problem...
the files are attached to this email
many thanks to you all!
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I get the same as Martin. I thought it may break the kml map output but that is fine as well -with my coords- I do have a warning but I always this on this particular Win 10 machine. It's a windows thing I think, I just ignore it. warning -- can't open cavern log file for input Also, I found this: https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02736.html Nick -----Original Message----- From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion Sent: 09 December 2019 18:33 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsluka@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error Not any problem. Therion from December 6th. Martin
by it's own it turns out fine, The problem is that this map needs to connect to another map and the connection turns out completely distorted: [image: image.png] I thought it's because of this error because this is the only error.... I added the files of the other map and the master th file. hope you can understand why this is happening. On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 10:52 PM Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com> wrote:
I get the same as Martin. I thought it may break the kml map output but that is fine as well -with my coords-
I do have a warning but I always this on this particular Win 10 machine. It's a windows thing I think, I just ignore it.
warning -- can't open cavern log file for input
Also, I found this:
https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02736.html
Nick
-----Original Message----- From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion Sent: 09 December 2019 18:33 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsluka@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error
Not any problem.
Therion from December 6th.
Martin
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It’s the join that’s messing it up. Comment it out. I changed the circular line type- pit to line type-wall-subtype pit Not too sure if that’s what you intended but it’s getting better. [cid:image003.png@01D5AEDB.A019E4A0] From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of ???? ???? Sent: 09 December 2019 21:04 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error by it's own it turns out fine, The problem is that this map needs to connect to another map and the connection turns out completely distorted: [image.png] I thought it's because of this error because this is the only error.... I added the files of the other map and the master th file. hope you can understand why this is happening. On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 10:52 PM Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com<mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com>> wrote: I get the same as Martin. I thought it may break the kml map output but that is fine as well -with my coords- I do have a warning but I always this on this particular Win 10 machine. It's a windows thing I think, I just ignore it. warning -- can't open cavern log file for input Also, I found this: https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02736.html Nick -----Original Message----- From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk<mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>> On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion Sent: 09 December 2019 18:33 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsluka@mac.com<mailto:martinsluka@mac.com>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error Not any problem. Therion from December 6th. Martin _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk<mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion -- בברכה, עמרי גסטר 052-6124995
Yes! this is how it should be Thanks! but I don't understand, everywhere I read about joining project there has to be a join, how it works without it? why does it cause a problem? On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:04 AM Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com> wrote:
It’s the join that’s messing it up. Comment it out.
I changed the circular line type- pit to line type-wall-subtype pit
Not too sure if that’s what you intended but it’s getting better.
*From:* Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> *On Behalf Of *???? ???? *Sent:* 09 December 2019 21:04 *To:* List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Help with an error
by it's own it turns out fine, The problem is that this map needs to connect to another map and the connection turns out completely distorted:
[image: image.png]
I thought it's because of this error because this is the only error....
I added the files of the other map and the master th file.
hope you can understand why this is happening.
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 10:52 PM Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com> wrote:
I get the same as Martin. I thought it may break the kml map output but that is fine as well -with my coords-
I do have a warning but I always this on this particular Win 10 machine. It's a windows thing I think, I just ignore it.
warning -- can't open cavern log file for input
Also, I found this:
https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02736.html
Nick
-----Original Message----- From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion Sent: 09 December 2019 18:33 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsluka@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error
Not any problem.
Therion from December 6th.
Martin
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There is not a real join "end of a line" to "end of another line" (or point) in your map. Just two underlying passages. Command join works in this way: after it reaches end of first line wall in first scrap it will find the nearest beginning of another line wall from second scrap and connect them. And in case it is not the correct situation the result will be a mess. See that yellow line on attached image indicating the biggest warping (connecting ends of walls) the Therion had to do to join those two scraps. One must „construct“ map in Therion. Always to think about how all objects will be organized, positioned and connected on the final map. Martin
9. 12. 2019 v 23:25, עמרי גסטר <omrigas@gmail.com>:
Yes! this is how it should be
Thanks!
but I don't understand, everywhere I read about joining project there has to be a join, how it works without it? why does it cause a problem?
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:04 AM Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com <mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com>> wrote: It’s the join that’s messing it up. Comment it out.
I changed the circular line type- pit to line type-wall-subtype pit
Not too sure if that’s what you intended but it’s getting better.
<image003.png>
From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>> On Behalf Of ???? ???? Sent: 09 December 2019 21:04 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error
by it's own it turns out fine, The problem is that this map needs to connect to another map and the connection turns out completely distorted:
<image002.png>
I thought it's because of this error because this is the only error....
I added the files of the other map and the master th file.
hope you can understand why this is happening.
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 10:52 PM Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com <mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com>> wrote:
I get the same as Martin. I thought it may break the kml map output but that is fine as well -with my coords-
I do have a warning but I always this on this particular Win 10 machine. It's a windows thing I think, I just ignore it.
warning -- can't open cavern log file for input
Also, I found this:
https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02736.html <https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02736.html>
Nick
-----Original Message----- From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk>> On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion Sent: 09 December 2019 18:33 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>> Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsluka@mac.com <mailto:martinsluka@mac.com>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error
Not any problem.
Therion from December 6th.
Martin
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Thanks for the expenation Martin, now I know this. this was done before anyone knew Therion... On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 8:58 AM Martin Sluka via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote:
There is not a real join "end of a line" to "end of another line" (or point) in your map. Just two underlying passages.
Command join works in this way: after it reaches end of first line wall in first scrap it will find the nearest beginning of another line wall from second scrap and connect them. And in case it is not the correct situation the result will be a mess. See that yellow line on attached image indicating the biggest warping (connecting ends of walls) the Therion had to do to join those two scraps.
One must „construct“ map in Therion. Always to think about how all objects will be organized, positioned and connected on the final map.
Martin
9. 12. 2019 v 23:25, עמרי גסטר <omrigas@gmail.com>:
Yes! this is how it should be
Thanks!
but I don't understand, everywhere I read about joining project there has to be a join, how it works without it? why does it cause a problem?
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:04 AM Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com> wrote:
It’s the join that’s messing it up. Comment it out.
I changed the circular line type- pit to line type-wall-subtype pit
Not too sure if that’s what you intended but it’s getting better.
<image003.png>
*From:* Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> *On Behalf Of *???? ???? *Sent:* 09 December 2019 21:04 *To:* List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Help with an error
by it's own it turns out fine, The problem is that this map needs to connect to another map and the connection turns out completely distorted:
<image002.png>
I thought it's because of this error because this is the only error....
I added the files of the other map and the master th file.
hope you can understand why this is happening.
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 10:52 PM Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com> wrote:
I get the same as Martin. I thought it may break the kml map output but that is fine as well -with my coords-
I do have a warning but I always this on this particular Win 10 machine. It's a windows thing I think, I just ignore it.
warning -- can't open cavern log file for input
Also, I found this:
https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02736.html
Nick
-----Original Message----- From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion Sent: 09 December 2019 18:33 To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsluka@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error
Not any problem.
Therion from December 6th.
Martin
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I do have a warning but I always get this on this particular Win 10 machine. It's a windows thing I think, I just ignore it. warning -- can't open cavern log file for input
This just means that you do not have survex loaded on the machine that Therion is running on. If you do, and Therion is set to use survex loop closure, you will get instead a section in therion.log that starts like this; ####################### cavern log file ######################## 1> Survex 1.2.37 2> Copyright ¸ 1990-2018 Olly Betts 3> 4> Survey contains 140 survey stations, joined by 139 legs. etc Bruce
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