Thanks I’ll check them out.


On Apr 23, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Andrew Atkinson <andrew@wotcc.org.uk> wrote:

try

http://cave-registry.org.uk/

loads to look at there, although not all of them are Therion.

The one that I work mainly on

http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/CheddarCatchment/

Meets your 4 point below, don't think that there is any data that has
come out of Walls or Onstation. Some of it has come from compass, for
which I wrote a script, but it was quick and dirty, probably not much
use to others.

Gough's and Reservoir have lots of different outputs from the same data,
with overlaps. For the output without the full understanding of Therion,
can be found here

http://www.ubss.org.uk/cave_survey_archive.php#Cheddar

For a couple of slightly easier datasets, without the fancy outputs
(yet) there are

http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/WookeyCatchment/

http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/Burrington/

All three are been actively worked on and with an SVN client you could
even replay how they have been built up. I do not, however, follow the
recommended way to arrange data, I have arranged it so every folder
should be stand alone, I find that it has the advantage that people
without the full understanding of Therion can work on the bits that they
are interested in, probably has some disadvantages to putting the whole
thing together, but I cannot say I have found it a problem

Andrew

On 23/04/15 20:57, Rob Countess wrote:
Does anyone mind sending me one of your data sets. It would help me
understand the structure and organization.
I have data for several cave areas on Vancouver Island BC Canada in
Walls and On Station. I want to convert the whole mess.
My data sets are

Glory 'ole/Arch Cave area
  -18 km in 4 main caves and a dozen or so smaller caves linked by
overland survey and GPS
  - longest caves are  Arch (10.6 km km 3 entrances), Glory 'ole (2.7
km) Pellucidar (1.9 km) Resonance (1.8 km)
  - Arch cave is divided into several series based on streams and
distinct areas of the cave
  - 3 caves (Glory 'ole, Resonance, and Arch) overlap in plan view (I
want to produce a high level map with all three caves in different
colours, initially just line plots but eventually real maps)

White Ridge
-7 km in 3 main caves and a half dozen smaller caves Linked by radio
location and GPS

Larch Mountain

2 km in 3 main caves and a dozen smaller caves linked by GPS

I also have a friend that manages data for Weymer Creek (over 30 km in
over 100 caves, longest are 12 and 9 km lots of caves overlap in plan
view). I am trying to convince him to switch to Therion too.

I am looking for an example data set that has

1) multiple caves in one caving area
2) at least one cave large enough to be broken into series
3) overlapping layers in at least one of the caves
4) examples of files to produces different outputs with overlapping
caves or cave series in different colours on the same map.

Thanks,

Rob Countess

PS If you don't want to spam the mailing list then send to:
rob.countess@gmail.com <mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com>


On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Xavier Pennec <Xavier.Pennec@inria.fr
<mailto:Xavier.Pennec@inria.fr>> wrote:

   if all stations have different name in Compass and Walls, could they
   be put in a single survey name-space?
   However, I agree that this is not the cleanest way as it is not
   respecting the structure of surveys that was previously defined.

   Xavier

   Le 22/04/2015 13:31, Martin Sluka a écrit :

       The problem of Compass and Walls data conversion is generate
       list of equate commands. In Compass and Walls it is simple,
       because there couldn’t be two stations with identical name. But
       in Therion it is not a rule. So you should to do it manually.

       in survey12 which is above survey1 and survey2:

       equal a101@survey1 a101@survey2

       m.s.


           19. 4. 2015 v 10:20, Robert Countess <rob.countess@gmail.com
           <mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com>>:

           <Glory.zip>

           This is from the Glory ‘ole caving area on Vancouver Island.
           I surveyed there from 1996 to 2007 in Arch Cave (10.5 km)
           Glory ‘ole (now 2.8 km) and Resonance (now 1.8 km). The area
           had been previously explored from 1980-1988 and some maps
           produced by hand. Much of the original data was lost. I
           resurveyed a few km in Arch cave and added 5 km but never
           completed a map due to the fact that loop closures were
           wreaking havoc with my walls and Illustrator attempts at a
           map. The original data in Arch was sketchy solo topofil
           survey. Resonance was extended by about 1km and an map
           produced but recently another half kilometre of passage has
           been added. Glory ‘ole was increased by about a kilometre
           but the main passage original survey 1.3 km needed to be
           resurveyed which led to no map. There are drafting leads in
           connection areas between the three caves. Two other caves
           Pellucidar and Tsulton Rising (cave dive) were managed by
           Pat Shaw, a cave diver.

           I went off to medical school in 2007 and nobody picked up
           the torch as far as drawing maps. Now I’m back and we are at
           it again. I want Therion to keep the maps up to date with
           the exploration going forward.

           The data is from 2004. I lost my 2007 copy due to 7 years of
           neglect and hard drive failure. I still have original notes
           of all exploration I was involved in but there are probably
           3 km of passage that should be resurveyed.

           I’m getting the hang of Therion and have got Resonance and
           Glory ‘ole centerline data converted over.




           On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:54 AM, Martin Sluka
           <martinsluka@mac.com <mailto:martinsluka@mac.com>> wrote:

               Robert, may you send me an example of Walls data?

               I was surprised how simple is to convert Compass data to
               Therion. As I may say, Compass data are small subset of
               Therion’s format so several simple copy/paste made the job.

               m.s.


                   19. 4. 2015 v 6:41, Robert Countess
                   <rob.countess@gmail.com
                   <mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com>>:

                   Thanks for the help.

                   Generated my first pdf plan and profile with
                   UTM/elevation and xvi file for drawing map. I love
                   how automatic many of these things are. I am feeling
                   hopeful about Therion now. I am stoked to finally
                   finish the maps of Arch, Resonance, and Glory ‘ole
                   and hopefully later this summer we will connect them
                   all to make it at least Canada’s second longest
                   Cave. If I get this working, I’m sure I can convince
                   some other Canadian cavers to use Therion. Then
                   again I can’t even get them to use Walls. Many are
                   still using On Station. I think the speed and
                   flexibility of output with win them over.

                   One tiny annoyance. One of the surveyors last names
                   is von Vorkampff and Therion gives and “invalid name
                   format” error message. I changed it to von_Vorkampff
                   and bypassed the error but with sub par final map
                   output - it says  von.Vorkampff

                   Again, thanks for helping me out. I’m sure I’ll have
                   more questions later.

                   Rob Countess

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                       Today's Topics:

                       1. Re: having trouble, first time user (Wookey)
                       2. Re: Therion Digest, Vol 112, Issue 4, having
                       trouble, first
                          time user (Robert Countess) (Dave Clucas)


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                       Message: 1
                       Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 23:07:26 +0100
                       From: Wookey <wookey@wookware.org
                       <mailto:wookey@wookware.org>>
                       Subject: Re: [Therion] having trouble, first
                       time user
                       To: therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>
                       Message-ID: <20150418220726.GF8982@halon.org.uk
                       <mailto:20150418220726.GF8982@halon.org.uk>>
                       Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

                       +++ Robert Countess [2015-04-18 12:25 -0700]:

                           Im using Mac OSX10.9. followed MacOSX
                           installation instructions on wiki

                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ ruby -e "$(curl
                           -fsSL https://
                           raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install
                           <http://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install>)"

                       [lots of dependency/package building]

                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/therion/5.3.16: 6
                           files, 4.4M, built in 50 seconds
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherionxtherion
                           -bash: xtherionxtherion: command not found
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherion

                       This is exactly the reason that 20 years ago
                       binary linux
                       distributions were invented, to replace the
                       previous painful process
                       of users downloading code and tools and
                       dependencies and building
                       them all until they got some software working.
                       'brew' attempts to
                       automate this process but there are still a lot
                       of ways it can go
                       wrong.

                       Do Mac people not have a proper packaging system
                       someone could make
                       therion packages for?

                           _____________________________________________________

                           A program named WISH opened and window named
                           therion compiler. The Status bar
                           at the bottom read ?User interface is not
                           active. To activate it open and
                           existing file or create a new one."
                           When I try to open a file with either the
                           Wish file|open or the folder button
                           I am unable to open any files in the Demo
                           data set - they are all grey and
                           cannot be selected.

                           I am a first time user. Previously used On
                           Station and the Walls. I had data
                           for 3 major caving areas in Walls totalling
                           about 50 km of cave. I want to
                           switch it all to Therion but if I can?t get
                           the program to work then I?ll have
                           to stick with Walls.

                       I'm sure we can get you going. We do have
                       several mac users here, but
                       I'm not one so can't really provide much help.

                       Can you get a command prompt? Can you run
                       'xtherion' from there?
                       That's the user interface for drawing stuff up.

                       'therion' is the compiler tool that processes
                       the data. What happens
                       if you run 'therion -v version'? Does that print
                       out a version? or
                       'therion --print-init-file'?

                       If you can convert some of your (centreline)
                       data (just using a text
                       editor) you should be able process it using just
                       'therion'.

                       You will need xtherion in order to draw up cave
                       sections.

                       Has anyone written a walls to therion conversion
                       tool? I'm not aware of
                       one.

                       Wookey
                       -- 
                       Principal hats:  Linaro, Debian, Wookware, ARM
                       http://wookware.org/


                       ------------------------------

                       Message: 2
                       Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:18:41 +0100
                       From: Dave Clucas <dave.clucas@icloud.com
                       <mailto:dave.clucas@icloud.com>>
                       Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Digest, Vol 112,
                       Issue 4, having
                               trouble, first time user (Robert Countess)
                       To: therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>
                       Message-ID:
                       <2A55A0EF-15F8-414A-B2CB-0EA18192A198@icloud.com
                       <mailto:2A55A0EF-15F8-414A-B2CB-0EA18192A198@icloud.com>>
                       Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

                       To open an existing file start Terminal and type
                       xtherion followed by the filename you wish to
                       open. You may drag the filename from a Finder
                       window.

                       Dave Clucas
                       daveclucas.com <http://daveclucas.com>
                       <http://daveclucas.com/>
                       sarawak-caves.com <http://sarawak-caves.com>
                       <http://sarawak-caves.com/>
                       dave.clucas@icloud.com
                       <mailto:dave.clucas@icloud.com>
                       <mailto:daveclucas@icloud.com
                       <mailto:daveclucas@icloud.com>>

                       Exploring the World - One cave at a time


                           On 18 Apr 2015, at 21:17,
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                           Message: 1
                           Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:25:37 -0700
                           From: Robert Countess
                           <rob.countess@gmail.com
                           <mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com>>
                           Subject: [Therion] having trouble, first
                           time user
                           To: therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>
                           Message-ID:
                           <3EF75C43-2B28-4525-A08F-FBD57383F1AF@gmail.com
                           <mailto:3EF75C43-2B28-4525-A08F-FBD57383F1AF@gmail.com>>
                           Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

                           Im using Mac OSX10.9. followed MacOSX
                           installation instructions on wiki

                           Installed Mactex
                           rebooted

                           Last login: Fri Apr 17 12:19:12 on console
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ make
                           xcode-select: note: no developer tools were
                           found at '/Applications/Xcode.app',
                           requesting install. Choose an option in the
                           dialog to download the command line
                           developer tools.
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$
                           [Restored]
                           Last login: Sat Apr 18 09:14:48 on console
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$
                           [Restored]
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ ruby -e "$(curl
                           -fsSL
                           https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"
                           ==> This script will install:
                           /usr/local/bin/brew
                           /usr/local/Library/...
                           /usr/local/share/man/man1/brew.1
                           ==> The following directories will be made
                           group writable:
                           /usr/local/.
                           /usr/local/bin
                           /usr/local/share
                           /usr/local/share/man
                           /usr/local/share/man/man1
                           ==> The following directories will have
                           their group set to admin:
                           /usr/local/.
                           /usr/local/bin
                           /usr/local/share
                           /usr/local/share/man
                           /usr/local/share/man/man1

                           Press RETURN to continue or any other key to
                           abort
                           ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/chmod g+rwx
                           /usr/local/. /usr/local/bin /usr/local/share
                           /usr/local/share/man /usr/local/share/man/man1

                           WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command
                           could lead to data loss
                           or the deletion of important system files.
                           Please double-check your
                           typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for
                           more information.

                           To proceed, enter your password, or type
                           Ctrl-C to abort.

                           Password:
                           ==> /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/chgrp admin
                           /usr/local/. /usr/local/bin /usr/local/share
                           /usr/local/share/man /usr/local/share/man/man1
                           ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/mkdir
                           /Library/Caches/Homebrew
                           ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/chmod g+rwx
                           /Library/Caches/Homebrew
                           ==> Downloading and installing Homebrew...
                           remote: Counting objects: 3533, done.
                           remote: Compressing objects: 100%
                           (3387/3387), done.
                           remote: Total 3533 (delta 34), reused 1514
                           (delta 18), pack-reused 0
                           Receiving objects: 100% (3533/3533), 2.65
                           MiB | 1.55 MiB/s, done.
                           Resolving deltas: 100% (34/34), done.
                            From https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew
                           * [new branch]      master     -> origin/master
                           HEAD is now at 681c6f3 txt2tags: modernize
                           and add test
                           ==> Installation successful!
                           ==> Next steps
                           Run `brew help` to get started
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew help
                           Example usage:
                           brew [info | home | options ] [FORMULA...]
                           brew install FORMULA...
                           brew uninstall FORMULA...
                           brew search [foo]
                           brew list [FORMULA...]
                           brew update
                           brew upgrade [FORMULA...]
                           brew pin/unpin [FORMULA...]

                           Troubleshooting:
                           brew doctor
                           brew install -vd FORMULA
                           brew [--env | config]

                           Brewing:
                           brew create [URL [--no-fetch]]
                           brew edit [FORMULA...]
                           open
                           https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/share/doc/homebrew/Formula-Cookbook.md

                           Further help:
                           man brew
                           brew home
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew update
                           Already up-to-date.
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew doctor
                           Please note that these warnings are just
                           used to help the Homebrew maintainers
                           with debugging if you file an issue. If
                           everything you use Homebrew for is
                           working fine: please don't worry and just
                           ignore them. Thanks!

                           Warning: Some directories in
                           /usr/local/share/man aren't writable.
                           This can happen if you "sudo make install"
                           software that isn't managed
                           by Homebrew. If a brew tries to add locale
                           information to one of these
                           directories, then the install will fail
                           during the link step.
                           You should probably `chown` them:

                           /usr/local/share/man/de
                           /usr/local/share/man/de/man1
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew tap
                           homebrew/science
                           ==> Tapping Homebrew/science
                           Cloning into
                           '/usr/local/Library/Taps/homebrew/homebrew-science'...
                           remote: Counting objects: 10005, done.
                           remote: Compressing objects: 100% (15/15), done.
                           remote: Total 10005 (delta 5), reused 0
                           (delta 0), pack-reused 9990
                           Receiving objects: 100% (10005/10005), 2.68
                           MiB | 1.56 MiB/s, done.
                           Resolving deltas: 100% (5584/5584), done.
                           Checking connectivity... done.
                           Tapped 475 formulae (501 files, 5.1M)
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew install
                           https://raw.githubusercontent.com/un1x86/homebrew-science/therion/therion.rb
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Installing dependencies for therion:
                           libpng, freetype, xz, libtool, j
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: libpng
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libpng-1.6.17.mavericks.bot
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring
                           libpng-1.6.17.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libpng/1.6.17: 17
                           files, 1.3M
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: freetype
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/freetype-2.5.5.mavericks.bo
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring
                           freetype-2.5.5.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/freetype/2.5.5: 60
                           files, 2.6M
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: xz
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/xz-5.2.1.mavericks.bottle.t
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring xz-5.2.1.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/xz/5.2.1: 59 files, 1.7M
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: libtool
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libtool-2.4.6.mavericks.bot
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring
                           libtool-2.4.6.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
                           ==> Caveats
                           In order to prevent conflicts with Apple's
                           own libtool we have prepended a "g"
                           so, you have instead: glibtool and glibtoolize.
                           ==> Summary
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libtool/2.4.6: 69
                           files, 3.8M
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: jpeg
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/jpeg-8d.mavericks.bottle.2.
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring jpeg-8d.mavericks.bottle.2.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/jpeg/8d: 18 files, 780K
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: imagemagick
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/imagemagick-6.9.1-1.maveric
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring
                           imagemagick-6.9.1-1.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/imagemagick/6.9.1-1:
                           1442 files, 22M
                           ==> Installing therion dependency:
                           lcdf-typetools
                           ==> Downloading
                           http://www.lcdf.org/type/lcdf-typetools-2.104.tar.gz
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> ./configure
                           --prefix=/usr/local/Cellar/lcdf-typetools/2.104
                           --without-kpaths
                           ==> make install
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/lcdf-typetools/2.104:
                           29 files, 4.1M, built in 20 seconds
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: cmake
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/cmake-3.2.2.mavericks.bottl
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring cmake-3.2.2.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/cmake/3.2.2: 1847
                           files, 32M
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: boost
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/boost-1.57.0.mavericks.bott
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring boost-1.57.0.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/boost/1.57.0: 10572
                           files, 439M
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: fontconfig
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/fontconfig-2.11.1.mavericks
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring
                           fontconfig-2.11.1.mavericks.bottle.3.tar.gz
                           ==>
                           /usr/local/Cellar/fontconfig/2.11.1/bin/fc-cache
                           -frv
                           xtherion? 
                           /usr/local/Cellar/fontconfig/2.11.1: 448
                           files, 3.6M
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: szip
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/szip-2.1.mavericks.bottle.t
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring szip-2.1.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/szip/2.1: 9 files, 136K
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: hdf5
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles-science/hdf5-1.8.14.maveric
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring
                           hdf5-1.8.14.mavericks.bottle.2.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/hdf5/1.8.14: 174 files, 11M
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: libtiff
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libtiff-4.0.3.mavericks.bot
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring
                           libtiff-4.0.3.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libtiff/4.0.3: 254
                           files, 3.8M
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: vtk
                           ==> Downloading
                           http://www.vtk.org/files/release/6.2/VTK-6.2.0.tar.gz
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> cmake -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS_RELEASE=
                           -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_RELEASE= -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PR
                           ==> make
                           xtherion
                           ==> make install
                           ==> Caveats
                           Even without the --with-qt option, you can
                           display native VTK render windows
                           from python. Alternatively, you can
                           integrate the RenderWindowInteractor
                           in PyQt, PySide, Tk or Wx at runtime. Read more:
                           import vtk.qt4; help(vtk.qt4) or import
                           vtk.wx; help(vtk.wx)


                           Python modules have been installed and
                           Homebrew's site-packages is not
                           in your Python sys.path, so you will not be
                           able to import the modules
                           this formula installed. If you plan to
                           develop with these modules,
                           please run:
                           mkdir -p
                           /Users/Rob/Library/Python/2.7/lib/python/site-packages
                           echo 'import site;
                           site.addsitedir("/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages")'

                           /Users/Rob/Library/Python/2.7/lib/python/site-packages/homebrew.pth
                           ==> Summary
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/vtk/6.2.0: 3186 files,
                           125M, built in 21.4 minutes
                           ==> Installing therion dependency: wxmac
                           ==> Downloading
                           https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/wxmac-3.0.2.mavericks.bottl
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> Pouring
                           wxmac-3.0.2.mavericks.bottle.9.tar.gz
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/wxmac/3.0.2: 777 files, 41M
                           ==> Installing therion
                           ==> Downloading
                           http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.16.tar.gz
                           ########################################################################
                           100.0%
                           ==> make config-macosx
                           ==> make
                           ==> make install
                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/therion/5.3.16: 6
                           files, 4.4M, built in 50 seconds
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherionxtherion
                           -bash: xtherionxtherion: command not found
                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherion

                           _____________________________________________________

                           A program named WISH opened and window named
                           therion compiler. The Status bar at the
                           bottom read ?User interface is not active.
                           To activate it open and existing file or
                           create a new one."
                           When I try to open a file with either the
                           Wish file|open or the folder button I am
                           unable to open any files in the Demo data
                           set - they are all grey and cannot be selected.

                           I am a first time user. Previously used On
                           Station and the Walls. I had data for 3
                           major caving areas in Walls totalling about
                           50 km of cave. I want to switch it all to
                           Therion but if I can?t get the program to
                           work then I?ll have to stick with Walls.

                           Rob Countess
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