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Instrukce pro užívání Topodroidu s výstupem do Therionu:
by Martin Sluka 04 Dec '18

04 Dec '18

Marco Corvi: topodroid has many features requested by users that probably use other programs than therion to draft their cave maps, anyways, i use therion for my cave maps, and here is what i do. (0) a note3 with a stylus: reasonable compromise between the size of the android and that of the caves (lucky surveyors might go for a 7" tablet) (1) enable only drawing tools that are supported by therion, otherwise i must go for metapost code (2) each topodroid survey can have many sketches, and i usually draw several sketches, except for very simple surveys. (3) switch off fractional 'extend" (4) switch off loop closure compensation: better see potential blunders (5) i usually use "normal" line style, and the decimation button to simplify them (if need arises) (6) pre-exporting: check every sketch with joining sketches using the sketch outline feature, and make then fit nicely (7) it may happen that a sketch needs to be splitted in two, but this is rare as i'm used to draw small sketches. i never user sketch merge (8) i use automatic station points, even if, unfortunately, topodroid puts in all the stations in the convex hull of the sketch, and there can happen spurious ones. i do not remember if midline hide helps for this, however, midline hide is something i use only when the midline is very messy, i usually go over the station points and remove those that do not belong to the piece of midline of the skatch: this is easily done with a "good" text editor (9) i usually do not use "line continuation", but i fix the gaps between wall lines with point line editings (snap to point and merge with line). i sometimes use the feature that shifts a portion of a line, but i find often easier to redraw the line and erase the old one. (10) i have the feeling that outline is no longer very important to therion (it is however for csurvey, but this is ot on this list), thus i do not pay much attention that wall lines are properly oriented. anyways when i notice a line should be reversed i do it, as it's quick (11) automatic export because it's a nuisance to export each sketch Evaristo Quidroga: First I have unified symbols in Topodroid and Therion, so that the symbols used in one are understood by the other. Both use semantic symbology, so the graphic symbol in each does not matter, only the attribute. Another important feature for me is to configure the Topodroid type of line: "SETTINGS/SKETCHING/LINES/Line Style: Bezier. When I make "sketch" on Topodroid I already think about Therion "scraps". I try to limit the length and prevent it from overlap itself, doing several or as much sketch as needed by survey trip. Every Topodroid Sketch is after a Therion Scrap. Topodroid export every sketch/scrap in one .th2 file. For me it is a bit annoying not being able to export several sketch/scraps in a single file, but I have learned to live with it and remedy it in Therion. After exporting to Therion the survey trip, I reorganize the data by survey or centerlines, in the cave .th file. I do all the editing processes in Therion (connect lines, check the sense of the walls, etc), since it is faster. I do the editing in each separate .th2 file generated by Topodroid. At this time I take the opportunity to rename the scraps according to the nomenclature adopted for the cave. Normally afterwards I group the scraps in files according to the levels or galleries of the cave. So it's much faster to make the joins. For this I copy with a text editor all the scrap commands from the individual file to the destination file. Then I open the destination file and move all the built-in scrap to its proper position. Another technique that I use sometimes surveying some gallery in several survey trips, is to continue with the same session, without creating a new session, but creating new sketches . So I can see the whole of the topography in the screen with the option overview. I just have to write down the date, team and start and end station, and then include it in the new centerline of the .th file. Well these some of my TOPODROID-THERION tricks that I now remember. Last month I gave a 3 days survey course: Digital Survey 3.0; where I explained all the workflow from the data collection with DistoX2, the data transfer and drawing with Topodroid, and making the final product in Therion.

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offset celých systémů
by Radek 01 Oct '18

01 Oct '18

Ahoj, dělám mapu celých jeskyní, a potřeboval bych zobrazit celý systém v nižším patru zobrazit posunutý vedle mapy vrchního patra. V main.th souboru definuji jen jednotlivé soubory .th i .th2 podsystémů, jsou uložené ve společném adresáři, main config vybírá jen tento hlavní .th soubor. Systém, který potřebuju posunout je v v těchto souborech: input ../data/ spojovackavodicka input ../data/lvi_jama (Viz příloha th soubor) Struktura scrapů th2 souboru Lví jáma je ve druhé příloze, spojovackavodicka má jen jeden scrap. Jak mám v main.th souboru nadefinovat posun obou o cca 30 m východním směrem? Zkoušel jsem nějaké postupy z jednotlivých map, ale nějak na to nemůžu přijít. Díky moc Radek Estavela

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Export bodů
by Luděk Vlk 26 Jul '18

26 Jul '18

Ahoj, Jak se dá vyexportovat seznam bodů (station) z Therionu do jednoduchého CSV nebo XLS? Export přes DB je dost nepraktický. Ideální by bylo mít výstupní formát: Station;Survey;Date of survey Luděk

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Propast v Therionu
by Luděk Vlk 04 May '18

04 May '18

Ahoj, Bojuji s kreslením vertikály v Therionu. Je-li taková propast součástí horizontálního sytému, tam to není problém. Ale nemůžu vyladit obalení polygonu, kreslím-li řez. Pokud udělám soubor th2 s takovým řezem, polygon se mi neobalí. Byla by možná varianta obalení příčnými řezy, ale tam si nevím rady. Můžete někdo poradit? V příloze je vykreslení řezu (přesně řečeno bokorysu) jedné šachty. Luděk Luděk Vlk ZO ČSS 1-11 Barrandien

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akumulátor pro disto
by Štěpán Mátl 12 Apr '18

12 Apr '18

Ahoj, budu objednávat akumulátory pro disto. Tak kdo by chtěl, napište. *FYI: Mě po 3,5 letech začalo disto vyhazovat nesmyslný hodnoty azimutu i přes řádnou kalibraci. Nakonec jsem zjistil, že je problém právě v akumulátoru.* -- Štěpán Mátl

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therion - zoom problem
by Michal Danko 13 Nov '17

13 Nov '17

Ahojte, po nainstalovani poslednej verzie 5.4.1 mi blbne zoomovanie v th2 editore. pri zmene zoomu sa mi podklad posunie inak ako to co som nakreslil. pre lepsie pochopenie priladam youtube linku https://youtu.be/U_7GezsO8f0 je to bug alebo iba daco zle umna? S pozdravom Ing. Michal Danko

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podklad pod mapu jaskyne
by Jozef Váš 02 Oct '17

02 Oct '17

Ahojte, Chcem sa opýtať ako môžem v Therione pod mapu jaskyne podložiť leteckú snímku alebo naskenovanú topografickú mapu. Niečo som našiel v návodoch, aj som to skúšal, ale stále sa mi to nedarí. V dátovom súbore som zadal príkazy: ...... ...... cs iJTSK *surface* *bitmap obrázok.jpg [0 0 -336000 -1219000 100 100 -336100 -1219100] * (tieto čísla sú len ako príklad) *endsurface* fix 1 -336028 -1219536 996 data normal from to compass clino length 1 2 113 -5 2.50 2 3 186 7 1.46 ...... ...... V konfiguračnom súbore mám potom ešte príkaz *surface bottom* Pri kompilácií mi vyhadzuje chybu že sa nemôžu mixovať lokálny a definovaný súradnicový systém, že mám zle zadefinovaný súradnicový systém. Ďakujem za radu. S pozdravom Jozef

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Funkcia "line rope"
by Matej Ševčík 25 Sep '17

25 Sep '17

Ahojte Prosím vás poradí mi niekto? Ako funguje funkcia v th2 "line rope" a ako s ňou pracovať. Potreboval by som nakresliť rovnú líniu lana. Lenže keď v therione zadám rovnú líniu ohraničenú 2 bodmi tak mi to lano v pôdoryse pdf. nakreslí ako krivku a neviem si s tým dať rady a ani neviem nájsť návod na wiki k tejto funkcii. Ďakujem Matej

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Prevzdušnenie zeminy v Therione
by Matej Ševčík 01 Jun '17

01 Jun '17

Ahojte Prosím vás nemá niekto kód metapostu pre "area clay" v AUT znakoch Potreboval by som zväčšiť priestory medzi jednotlivými bodmi "!prevzdušniť" tú zeminu a neviem nájsť pre tú značku kód. Ďakujem M.

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nový Therion 5.4.1
by Therion 18 Apr '17

18 Apr '17

Ahojte, dostupná je nová verzia 5.4.1 Therionu. Prehľad zmien v angličtine: v5.4.1 Therion 5.4.1 (2017-04-18): therion: * added fonts-setup layout option * added min-symbol-scale layout option * added support for -scale <number> for point and line symbols (1.0 ≡ medium symbol size) * updated Russian translation [PR#73,74] * bugs fixed: - remove debugging output when reading Survex err files - don't accept stddev <= 0 S pozdravom, Therion team

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