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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks martin, that makes sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I thought I had a recent snapshot, but not recent enough.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I installed Therion 67248d35 and set it up for Luatex. It compiled a small test project, but fails to render the png background sketches and reports this warning.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>C:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe: warning -- unable to read D:/CaveSurvey/th_Canaan/150Tomo/./ptopo/1- 50TomoPlanSketch-300-02of02-transparent.png -- Magick: NoDecodeDelegateForThisImageFormat `D:/CaveSurvey/th_Canaan/150Tomo/./ptopo/1-50TomoPlanSketch-300-02of02-transparent.png' @ error/constitute.c/ReadImage/739<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Reverting my therion.ini and application back to Therion d6d9a18f all is well again.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So for now I will pause my luatex adventure until the recent round of Therion edits settles down. Since the string “decode” turns up in my error and features in recent commits, I expect they are the culprit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Should I create an issue on github, or will this message be sufficient to prompt another look at decode?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Budaj<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 2 September 2026 17:27<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] th_formdef.tex runaway text error - LuaTeX<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Oh, I meant a recent snapshot of Therion, sorry for the confusion. LuaTeX is now included in the windows installer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>M.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Sep 1, 2026, 22:12 <<a href="mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz">bruce@tomo.co.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0mm'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks Martin<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’ll need some more hand holding.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I can find <a href="https://github.com/lualatex" target="_blank">https://github.com/lualatex</a> which gives many variations that I cannot make sense of, and <a href="https://gitlab.lisn.upsaclay.fr/texlive/luatex" target="_blank">https://gitlab.lisn.upsaclay.fr/texlive/luatex</a> which looks like it has a definitive install, but it is not github.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Is it one of these?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> Bruce<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Therion <<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Budaj<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 2 September 2026 06:51<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] th_formdef.tex runaway text error - LuaTeX</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi Bruce,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>you need<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- a recent development snapshot from github<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- to specify the full path to luatex.exe, like pdftex-path "C:/Program files/Therion/bin/windows/luatex.exe"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>M.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sun, Aug 30, 2026 at 11:11<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM <<a href="mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz" target="_blank">bruce@tomo.co.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>From my query two weeks ago, and Martin’s suggestion I try LuaTeX…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’ve edited <i>C:\Program Files\Therion\therion.ini</i> to include… pdftex-path "luatex"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’m missing something:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Running my thconfig with Mapiah, I get a log file that ends with…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><i>making map ... done</i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><i>'luatex' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.</i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><i>C:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe: error --Press ENTER to exit! pdftex exit code – 1</i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Running my thconfig with XTherion, there is no mention of Luatex. I get a log file that ends with…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><i>##################### end of pdftex log file #####################</i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><i>C:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe: error -- pdftex exit code -- 1</i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><i>writing xtherion file ... done</i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I checked my %APPDATA%\ folders, and the only Therion related ini in there is Loch.ini<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>_______________________________________________<br>Therion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">Therion@speleo.sk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion" target="_blank">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Therion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">Therion@speleo.sk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion" target="_blank">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></body></html>