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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>>…<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> don't join in the middle of a chamber...<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Yes, an interesting thread. As Martin rightly says, joining should not be considered fully automatic, but with care it usually can be, with some provisos. </span><a href="https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/tips?s%5b%5d=join#joining_scraps_together">https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/tips?s[]=join#joining_scraps_together</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Joining in the middle of chambers or passages IS perfectly OK, indeed it is necessary every time there is a passage intersection. You just need to ensure that each affected passage has a gap in the wall to accept the join! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The only restriction I have found is that there should not be two wide openings opposite each other in the same scrap. In this scenario the scrap is ‘broken in half’ and while you will get a nice pdf output, the kml plan will not plot properly (unless this feature has been fixed recently).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>In Alistair’s example, the pair of green circles indicate a passage opening that can be joined. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The pair of brown circles show a passage opening on one side and no corresponding opening on the other. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hence Therion found the nearest opening it could in the scraps it was instructed to join, and in this particular case was trying to join the three nearest openings together. I predict that an acceptable result would be obtained if a gap were to be opened near the brown circles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><img border=0 width=390 height=408 style='width:4.0625in;height:4.25in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D59088.D74A4B20"></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>