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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As Martin suggested, you just need to define a top-level map, and select that for output.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Here is a snip of a top level map that is part of a set of maps I have used to highlight chronology in atlas outputs.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>map 2009-2011PlanMap \<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> -title "MiddleEarth 2009-2011 Plan" \<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> -projection plan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> preview above 2017-PlanMap <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> preview above 2014-2015-PlanMap <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> preview above 2013-PlanMap <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> preview above 2012-PlanMap <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> #Deck Extension<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> DB-DeckExtensionPlan@MiddleEarth<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> DD-SandyWayPlan@MiddleEarth<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> DE-BermudaTriPlan@MiddleEarth<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> DF-DeckEndPlan@MiddleEarth<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> DO-UpperBermudaPlan@MiddleEarth<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> IZ-wotsumpPlan@MiddleEarth<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> preview below 1995-2008PlanMap <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> preview below 1983-1994PlanMap<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> preview below 1979-1982PlanMap<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> preview below 1974-1978PlanMap<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>endmap<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Your relationship of scraps and maps to surveys is different to what I use, so the namespace relationship will be different.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The first time, you may need to figure it out yourself, but once you have done that you can compile your project, then in the compiler window, double click on the component map to select it with its correct path.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=910 height=626 style='width:9.4791in;height:6.5208in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D58FB9.536298F0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bruce<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Gee<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 31 October 2019 03:37<br><b>To:</b> therion@speleo.sk<br><b>Subject:</b> [Therion] Multiple caves on one map with an offset<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>Hi Bruce -<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-paragraph-type:empty;-qt-block-indent:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>Yes, I am now referring to PDF outputs. It has not bothered me enough to chase down the solution. I am pretty sure there is some combination of map and select statements that will do the trick. The last time I thought much about this, the problem I came up with was how to tell the BigCavernRanch.th file the names of the various maps in the other .th files. I don't know how the scope of the name spaces works in this kind of configuration.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-paragraph-type:empty;-qt-block-indent:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>The issue will probably become more annoying in a few weeks. We are planning a major survey expedition to these caves for Nov 10-11, and I will have a lot of new data to work with. The passage that I want to offset is particularly difficult, less than 12 inches high for most of its known length, so there are very few people who are willing to do survey in there. At least it is in dry clay! No water to deal with.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-paragraph-type:empty;-qt-block-indent:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>The old maps you have may not include this passage. It takes off from the top of Texas Dome, which is in the far north part of Allie Spring Cave. We call the passage "Top of Texas". It runs pretty much directly above other passages. Even with transparency it makes for a rather confused presentation unless it is offset to the side.<br><br>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>Bill Gee<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-paragraph-type:empty;-qt-block-indent:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-paragraph-type:empty;-qt-block-indent:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><br>On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 2:55:37 AM CDT Bruce Mutton wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> > There is one feature I have found that does not work. . One of my four<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> maps has a section where two passages run pretty much the same way, one<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> directly above the other. In the single-cave map I handled this by setting<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> the upper passage off to the side. That does not come through to the group<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> map. The two passages are drawn on top of each other. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> I presume you are now referring to exported map pdf outputs?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> I was looking for something that fitted that description in an old copy of<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> your Big Cavern Ranch project that I got from one of your posts last year,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> but didn't find anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> In general, if you select and export a map that has offsets defined, they<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> will be honoured.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> I you do not specifically select a map with the offsets defined, then the<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> scraps will be plotted in their true position - no offset. I do this<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> intentionally for overview maps of multiple caves, as offsets at small<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> scales (1:2,000, 1:10,000) provide a misleading impression of the cave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> It seems like you have done this as well, perhaps unwittingly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> Your source BigCavernRanch.th contains a survey named 'all' but there is no<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> corresponding map defined as far as I can see. Therefore despite each of<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> those caves referenced having maps defined, they are not used - every scrap<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> defined is used instead. So no offsets.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> >From the Therion Book.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> 'select'<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> Description: selects objects (surveys and maps) for export. By default, all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> survey objects<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> are selected. If there is no map selected, all scraps belonging to selected<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> surveys are<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> selected by default for map export.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> You can easily control what is plotted by defining a 'map all' in your<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> BigCavernRanch.th file (or elsewhere) and then selecting it in your 'all'<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> thconfig.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-paragraph-type:empty;-qt-block-indent:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-paragraph-type:empty;-qt-block-indent:0'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>