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<p>Hi,</p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">I have
been a Lary Fish Compass user for almost 20 years. </span></span><span
id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">One of the
reasons for having been so loyal to the program is its
powerful visualizers (Cave Viewer and CaveXO); </span></span></span></span><span
id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">and at
a time when the data was entered by hand its powerful
data editor (Cave Editor). <br>
</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
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id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">In
Compass t</span></span></span></span></span></span><span
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class="">here are 2 basic types of concepts:
"Surveys" assimilable to the Therion "Centerlines"
and "Section", used normally to define Caves or
caves parts like Therion "Surveys". <br>
</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
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class="">With the "Complex Plotting Options" menu
of the "Cave Viewer", I can show, hide, color,
symbol, etc, of the centerlines and walls by
section, surveys, dates and distances. It's a very
powerful tool to analyses complex caves systems. <br>
</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
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id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">The
Compass PLT exported by Therion don't have the data
structured by Compass "Surveys" and "Sections"; </span></span></span></span></span></span><span
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class="">so I lose the ability to use the complex
visualization options.<br>
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<p><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
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id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">Aven
is a very powerful tool too. I like the easy and
intuitive rotation controls and Error visualization. I
can show/hide Therion surveys. But a can't show/hide
the "Centerlines". All my centerlines have "id" and
"title". I can't choose a color by survey. I can
show/hide duplicate shots. I can colorize by depth,
date, error, slope and lenght. <br>
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<p><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
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id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">Loch,
the Therion visualizer. It's a funny tool. I like the
3D walls using the scraps walls. I can colorize only
by depth and default. I don't know if I can show/hide
the the different surveys. The Selection Menu is only
informative, or you can play with it? . I can
show/hide duplicate centerline shots, but I can hide
duplicate shots walls (see an other post). <br>
</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
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id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">Therion
export models to KML, and I can use Google Earth to
visualize it. With Google Earth I can show/hide the
surveys and centerlines (Therion don't export the id
or title, but I can recognize the name of the first
station. I can change color and style to surveys and
centerlines. I can't view in 3d underground. <br>
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<p><br>
<span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
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id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">I
am now an enthusiast of Therion/Survex and its
derivative products: complex loop closure with
weighting SD error by centerlines quality,
sketch morphing, complete map creation, semantic
symbology, automatic scraps warps when the
centerline change, etc. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
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class="">That is why new projects are
currently with Therion, and I am transferring
from Compass the data of our jewel in the
crown: Sistema Arañonera.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span
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class=""><span id="result_box" class=""
lang="en"><span class="">Now, as a basic and
quick model analysis tool, I use Aven.
Loch uses it for some 3d walls
representation. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
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lang="en"><span class="">But done to
miss some Compass complex
visualization </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
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lang="en"><span class="">for
analysis of complicated systems. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
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lang="en"><span class="">Ideally,
for me, Therion would export
PLT with a Compass "surveys"
and "sections" structure, so I
could use the best of both
worlds.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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Regards,</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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