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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Nick<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This may or may not help, but you have stumbled, in part, into a topic I explored back in July 2017 (if seems much longer than that), with mixed feedback!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg06555.html">https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg06555.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>At the time I made some changes based on feedback received. I have not looked at it for a while, but have attached the file in its current state, with changes tracked.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It is still a bit rough I’m sorry.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bruce<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'> Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Bairstow via Therion<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 2 March 2018 11:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk><br><b>Cc:</b> Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] Error When Adding A new Cave to Master Index<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>OK as is normally the case with these things I spotted the error within five minutes of asking for help, but it has raised a another question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>My problem was quite simply I had no survey/end survey wrapper. I have been using this index file for over two years and never noticed however it has worked perfectly and produced what I needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I now ask why did the index.th compile OK with the other 18 surveys listed in it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>The only difference between the first 18 surveys and the last non-working one was that in each scrap of the 18 previous surveys I used the option -station-names “” “@surveyname”. I was shown this when I started learning Therion but never really new why. When using this option to make any survey.th compile I have to make sure the map/endmap is outside the survey/endsurvey wrapper.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>With the my latest survey file I did not use the scrap option and just went with the “normal way” with everything in survey.th within the survey/endsurvey and then the index .th failed due to having no survey/endsurvey wrapper.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Clearly I do not yet fully understand the process even though I can make things work, so lots more reading I think. Does anyone know of a good explanation somewhere, most thing I read I find a little confusing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Also if someone would like to explain the<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>-station-names “” “@surveyname” bit I would be very grateful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I suspect I’m not the only one to have struggled with this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Thanks for the previous answers guys.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> Therion [<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk">mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Mutton via Therion<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 March 2018 19:23<br><b>To:</b> 'List for Therion users' <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Bruce Mutton <<a href="mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz">bruce@tomo.co.nz</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] Error When Adding A new Cave to Master Index<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nick<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m guessing you have created a map that contains the survey only for your new cave, and a map which contains scraps or maps for your other caves.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I do this intentionally while I am drawing up a new piece of passage, then remove the survey map once I am finished.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bruce<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'> Therion <</span><span lang=EN-GB><a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>therion-bounces@speleo.sk</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Bairstow via Therion<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 2 March 2018 7:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <</span><span lang=EN-GB><a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>therion@speleo.sk</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>><br><b>Cc:</b> Nick Bairstow <</span><span lang=EN-GB><a href="mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>Nick@pff.uk.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Therion] Error When Adding A new Cave to Master Index<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I have just added a small cave to my main index .th. Everything compiles but the pdf shows the new cave as shots and splays not as the normal walls etc you would expect in a map. All other caves display correctly as intended.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Has anyone point out what I am doing wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Nick</span></b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>