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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thankyou Vlad, makes me feel like I’ve finally made it! You’ve tricked me into starting a wiki post, in the FAQ page.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Right, your BTW made me think to look in the Therion Book (if all else fails, read the instructions).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Page 17 clears up the mystery of when Therion assumes a ‘cave’ if none is defined, but I think there are other cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>All this looking at cave-list has made me realise I have been defining caves in the wrong place, the lowest level trip surveys.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I should be defining them in the next level up, the cave surveys – obvious really.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I will play with that for a bit, and I am hoping it does not change the behaviour.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>???????? ???????? via Therion<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 28 January 2018 7:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk><br><b>Cc:</b> Владимир Георгиев <vld.georgiev@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] Экспорт в KML - export cave-list html and kml<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Very good test and illustrations. You are my Therion guru :)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Using both markings seems to be a good way to separate the "cave" (main entrance marked on the </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>survey </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>command) from the secondary entrances (marked with </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>station </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>commands), and to switch the secondary ones on/off in the lists.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>Btw, if you use -surveys off it hides the entrances, but only if you have defined a "cave main entrance" in the </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>survey</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>. If there is no main entrance, it still shows all the secondary ones defined with </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>station</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Would you have the time to put your description and screenshots in the wiki? This is good information have.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vlad<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Bruce Mutton via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion@speleo.sk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sorry С уважением, I may have taken over your post!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>> I suspect the kml exports are not reporting the hierarchy however.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I was wrong, export cave-list -fmt kml does report the full hierarchy, and may even behave better than the html output.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>But it is a bit complicated – I did some testing…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Using this general form of survey definition…<o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:1.0pt 4.0pt 1.0pt 4.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>survey 01 -title “Some Cave name” -entrance 1 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>#defining the entrance here as part of survey definition tells Therion ‘it is a cave’</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> centerline<br> cs lat-long<br> fix 0 11:22:33.4 22:33:44.5 1234 # set the GPS coordinates and elevation of station 0<br> station 3 "Some other entrance name" entrance </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> # Mark station 3 as another entrance of ‘Some Cave name’ cave, and display it’s name also </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> …</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> endcenterline</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>endsurvey</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>And using these exports….<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:1.0pt 4.0pt 1.0pt 4.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>#</b><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>html</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>export cave-list \</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> -surveys on \ # on = show survey, cave hierarchy, & entrances so long as location is on, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> # off = show caves only, not entrances, no hierarchy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> -location on \ # on = show cave coords, and entrance coordinates only if surveys are on</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> # off = no coordinates</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> -output ./Output/RiwakaSystemCaves.<b>html</b> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>#</b><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>kml</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>export cave-list \</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> -surveys on \ # on = show survey, cave & entrances hierarchy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> # off = show caves only, not entrances, no hierarchy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> -location on \ # on|off = no difference</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> -output ./Output/RiwakaSystemCaves.<b>kml</b> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Some examples using variations of the above. In outputs below there are four caves explicitly defined; H-Hawkes Cave, Hawkes Kairuru Middle Cave, Kairuru Cave, Kairuru 3030. And one cave that Therion has deduced as it is implied by the survey structure; Ngarua cave, Takaka Hill. (Unfortunately I have not been disciplined with naming, so apologies that it is confusing). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>“Kairuru 3030” is defined as a cave, and it has two entrances defined in the centrelines (that are therefore part of Kairuru 3030 Cave, which has three entrances in total).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It is one of many caves in a Therion project that the outputs below are taken from.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Here the word ‘cave’ is used to mean the main entrance (ie ‘cave’ is an entrance and a cave, whereas ‘entrance’ is just an entrance that is usually a part of an already defined cave).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>HTML Outputs</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Html surveys on location on</b> (the survey, cave and entrance hierarchy is shown. Caves have a length reported, entrances do not)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=0 width=505 height=266 style='width:5.2604in;height:2.7708in' id="m_4171055648381955765Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image003.png@01D3987E.DCE73EC0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Html surveys on location off</b> (the survey and cave hierarchy is shown, but <b>not entrances*</b>. Caves have a length reported, entrances do not)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=0 width=604 height=212 style='width:6.2916in;height:2.2083in' id="m_4171055648381955765Picture_x0020_5" src="cid:image005.png@01D3987E.DCE73EC0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>* Could this be a bug? Maybe, maybe not.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The last two records ARE entrances, but they have no survey legs associated, they are gps fixes only. Maybe that is why Therion treats them differently and displays these but not others. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Therion has used the survey hierarchy to infer it is a cave called “Ngarua Cave, Takaka Hill” even though there is no cave entrance defined in the survey definition.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Html surveys off location on </b>(No hierarchy, caves only, no entrances – except fixed entrances, has coordinates columns)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Html surveys off location off </b>(No hierarchy, caves only, no entrances – except fixed entrances, no coordinates)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=0 width=515 height=126 style='width:5.3645in;height:1.3125in' id="m_4171055648381955765Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image006.png@01D3987E.DCE73EC0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>KML Outputs</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Kml surveys on location on </b>(the survey, cave and entrance hierarchy is shown. Does not distinguish bottom level records as either cave or entrance, could be either)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Kml surveys on location off</b> (same)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=0 width=276 height=276 style='width:2.875in;height:2.875in' id="m_4171055648381955765Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image007.png@01D3987E.DCE73EC0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Kml surveys off location on, </b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Kml surveys off location off</b> (both look the same, both contain coordinates - kml would be boring without locations!)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=0 width=268 height=132 style='width:2.7916in;height:1.375in' id="m_4171055648381955765Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image008.png@01D3987E.DCE73EC0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hope that helps :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Bruce Mutton [mailto:<a href="mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz" target="_blank">bruce@tomo.co.nz</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 28 January 2018 11:58 AM<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] Экспорт в KML</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yes it does make a difference. Define a cave with the survey definition. Define secondary entrances within centrelines.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>See the difference if you export caves to a html file. For best effect you can do this for a multi cave project where each cave has multiple entrances. I will post example outputs later.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I suspect the kml exports are not reporting the hierachy however.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_4171055648381955765composer_signature"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:#575757'>Bruce</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:#575757'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my Samsung device, hence the typo's</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Владимир Георгиев via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion@speleo.sk</a>> <br>Date: 28/01/18 10:16 (GMT+12:00) <br>To: List for Therion users <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion@speleo.sk</a>> <br>Cc: Владимир Георгиев <<a href="mailto:vld.georgiev@gmail.com" target="_blank">vld.georgiev@gmail.com</a>> <br>Subject: Re: [Therion] Экспорт в KML <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Bruce<br><br>Yes, that's right, you can define any number of entrances like this.<br>Although I admit I haven't used the "</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>survey 01 -title “Some Cave name” -entrance 1</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>" syntax. So far I have always listed the entrances within the surveys with several "</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>station XX "Some other entrance name" entrance</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>" lines.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>Does it make a difference which syntax is used?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vlad</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:01 PM, Bruce Mutton via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion@speleo.sk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>And I have no Russian, but making assumptions based on Vladimir’s response…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(and apologising for using English)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>There are more subtle nuances that can be conveyed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Have a look at <a href="https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist?s%5b%5d=entrance#points" target="_blank">https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist?s[]=entrance#points</a> and scroll down to ‘Passage Ends’ point entrance.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You can tell Therion to define a cave, and further, specifically define all the entrances that the ‘cave’ has.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>To expand on and change Vladimir’s example<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>survey 01 -title “Some Cave name” -entrance 1 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>#defining the entrance here as part of survey definition tells Therion ‘it is a cave’</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> centerline<br> cs lat-long<br> fix 0 11:22:33.4 22:33:44.5 1234 # set the GPS coordinates and elevation of station 0<br> station 3 "Some other entrance name" entrance </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> # Mark station 3 as another entrance of ‘Some Cave name’ cave, and display it’s name also </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> …</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> endcenterline</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>endsurvey</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Have I got that right Vlad?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Therion [mailto:<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>???????? ???????? via Therion<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 28 January 2018 7:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Владимир Георгиев <<a href="mailto:vld.georgiev@gmail.com" target="_blank">vld.georgiev@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] Экспорт в KML</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi<br><br>My Russian is not that good, so I will reply in English.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The kml model can export the entrances, if that is what you mean by "объектов". To get the name of the cave to display, you have to mark one or more stations as entrances. Something like this:<br></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br> centerline<br> cs lat-long<br> fix 0 11:22:33.4 22:33:44.5 1234 # set the GPS coordinates and elevation of station 0<br> station 0 "Some cave name" entrance # Mark station 0 as an entrance and set the name to be displayed. Not necessarily the same station as the one with the coords.<br> ...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vladimir</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>2018-01-26 11:08 GMT+02:00 Кунгурская лаборатория-стационар via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion@speleo.sk</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Здравствуйте. Подскажите, пожалуйста. Я пытаюсь экспортировать данные<br>в KML-файл. Вот строка<br><br>export model -fmt kml -output Kungur_Z.kml<br><br>При просмотре kml-файла он не отображает названия объектов, а<br>отображаются только линии.<br><br>Подскажите, пожалуйста, как сделать так, чтобы названия объектов тоже<br>отображались?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Therion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">Therion@speleo.sk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion" target="_blank">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Therion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion" target="_blank">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>