<html><body><div>The purpose of this feature was to correct field sketches to LRUD for example.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>m.</div><div><br>On Nov 18, 2016, at 03:47 PM, Benedikt Hallinger <beni@hallinger.org> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="msg-quote"><div class="_stretch"><span class="body-text-content">Thank you very much!<br><br>The extra point then just basicly just indicates "this *known* point is xx <br>meters away from point y"; as is the (implicit) same for the LRUD data.<br>In other words, the LRUD data generates implicitely such points if present.<br><br>Just to clarify (and for the archive):<br>To correct an arbitary wall between two long survey legs, i would place two <br>extra points at the middle of the leg at the position where i have drawn my <br>wall signature. Then i would enter the "-from" info and the respective -dist <br>to that point.<br><br>I just tested this and it works like desired, however it involves a little <br>fiddling.<br><br><br>Thanks again for clarifying this!<br><br><br><br><br>Am 2016-11-18 14:13, schrieb Xavier Pennec:<br><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">According to the therion book (p. 25), extra points can also be used</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">without LRUD by specifying the distance to either the closest station of a</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">specific station, e.g.: point 0.0 0.0 extra -dist 3 -from 2@mysurvey</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">I have not tried yet, though.</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Xavier</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Le 18/11/2016 11:52, Benedikt Hallinger a écrit :</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Thank you for the fadt reply.</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">If i understand and interpret correctly, the behavior unfolds in the</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">following way:</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">- when i detect inproper morphing of walls compared to lrud data</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">- i place "extra" points on my traced wall signature.</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">- the extra point position is approximately where the lrud point is</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">assumed to be on the wall.</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">- when rendering, therion morphes the wall to match the extra point</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">position to the corresponding lrud position for that point (which is the</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">nearest station).</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">That would imply:</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">a) there is no use for extra points without lrud data.</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">b) extra points reference l+r positions of lrud data of the nearest</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">station, therefore it is not possible to set more than two extra points per</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">station.</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Is the above true?</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Am 2016-11-18 11:20, schrieb Martin Sluka:</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">18. 11. 2016 v 8:07, Benedikt Hallinger <beni@hallinger.org>:</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Hello,</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">i struggle to understand how the extra morphing points are meant to be</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">used.</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">How do they work technically? How do i correctly set them?</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Are they linked to the nearest station and could i use more than two</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">extra points?</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Are they linked to LRUD data?</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">I already investigated the "morohing" example from the documentation</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">(both in code and in thbook), so i think it would be good to stick to</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">this example.</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Thank you very much!</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">_______________________________________________</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" 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LRUD</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">data (if available) and distances to walls in sketches.</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Check page 89 of TherionBook.</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type="cite" 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