<div dir="ltr"><div>Bruce,</div><div><br></div><div>Again thanks for all your help.</div><div><br></div><div>In your attachment you had some mention of where to put low-level map definitions. Could you explain the benefits of placing map definitions:</div><div>1) in the file outside of surfer/endsurvery</div><div>2) in the file inside of at and the start of survey/endsurvey</div><div>3) in separate file</div><div><br></div><div>It seems like you've given this a lot of thought and would choose differently if you were starting out again and since I am just starting out I'd like to understand more.</div><div><br></div><div>Rob</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The survey network and map hierarchies are then tied together in INDEX.th files</div><div><br></div><div>[If I were to start my 'Therion life' again, I would place the map definitions inside of, and at the start of the survey-endsurvey block to promote ease of use and simpler map references in INDEX files. The above structure was intended to make maps independent of surveys (which is preferred), but I did not think it through – to achieve that we would have to have map definitions in separate files. Separate files would work OK, but would increase the number or size of files. At the time, we chose not to go this way. Another time, I might choose differently. Bruce]</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Bruce <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz" target="_blank">bruce@tomo.co.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">This is not a dataset, but it is an
example of a file I have recently started placing at the top level of a survey
project folder, to remind me and other users what conventions are used and preferred
in a particular project. It might, indirectly, help you think about some
of the considerations when starting a large project.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">See attached.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Rob Countess<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Therion] Therion
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have data for several cave areas on <u></u><u></u>Vancouver Island<u></u> <u></u>BC<u></u> <u></u>Canada<u></u><u></u> in Walls and On Station. I
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">My data sets are<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Glory '<u></u><u></u>ole/Arch<u></u>
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linked by overland survey and GPS<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> - longest caves are Arch (10.6 km km 3 entrances),
Glory 'ole (2.7 km) Pellucidar (1.9 km) Resonance (1.8 km)<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> - Arch cave is divided into several series based on
streams and distinct areas of the cave<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> - 3 caves (Glory 'ole, Resonance, and Arch) overlap in
plan view (I want to produce a high level map with all three caves in different
colours, initially just line plots but eventually real maps)<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I also have a friend that manages data for Weymer Creek (over 30 km in
over 100 caves, longest are 12 and 9 km lots of caves overlap in plan view). I
am trying to convince him to switch to Therion too.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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caves or cave series in different colours on the same map.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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