This would be a bit of a hack, but have you tried making two scraps using the same stations, but one holding the lines defining the sump area, and the others defining the rocks? Call them in a map as follows:<div><br></div>
<div><i>map rockysump -proj plan</i></div><div><i>sump_scrap</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i>break</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i>rock_scrap</i></div><div><i>endmap rockysump</i></div><div><br></div><div>This might work for you, although it is certainly extra work.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Jonny<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Bruce <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz" target="_blank">bruce@tomo.co.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Graham</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">It can be a bit tricky, but I can usually
get area and point symbols to plot under/over area water without one completely
obscuring the other, but sometimes it just does not work. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Not sure if the transparency/opacity
settings on scraps affect it.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">If you have a custom sump/water definition,
I imagine it is possible to code it so that it would always be opaque to any
entities drawn below it.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">As you mentioned the order of entities in
the th2 file can affect it, as can –place top, -place bottom.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">A small rambling here…</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=drawingchecklist#options_common_to_many_points_lines_and_areas" target="_blank">http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=drawingchecklist#options_common_to_many_points_lines_and_areas</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">…that suggests other ideas.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Bruce<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><div class="im">
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hello Graham,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I was able to get a boulder in a sump to draw by specifying "-clip
off" in the options of the boulder. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">How do I get to show boulders or debris on the floor of a sump? Whether
I put the debris area before or after the sump area, the rocks remain hidden by
the water. In the end I hand drew some big boulders, after the water, which now
are visible but also appear not to be wet.<br>
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Graham<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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